For Tube Folks...


Hi All,

I am rather new to tube gear and recently purchased a 'NOS' GE 6550 Power Tube

 

A. It was advertised as:  "New old stock in original or OEM box. A nice USA tube that will outperform any current production 6550 made. An excellent lot, matched to within 5 percent and then aged in a hi-fi shop demo unit. Very low hours, burn-in time only, and the performance has been verified by us..."

B. The seller also sells used GE6550 tubes that are advertised as: "Light use, tested good with good match, and white box..."

 

The large black spot on the glass where it GE is etched makes wonder how many hours of usage this tube has seen...

My question -  Within reasonable certainty, is this tube is NOS or is it USED?  

Thanks in advance for any clarity.

 

 

inagroove

Since we are talking tubes, does anyone know how long 12AU7 RCA blackplates from 50s usually last ? I don’t mean military/industrial Command blackplates. What about 12AX7 Mullard longplates? I understand it may depend on particular amp.

That’s what I use, close to 2000 hours on them.

As a side note, watch out for eBay sellers who offer "NIB" (new-in-box) or "NOS" tubes in "original" boxes.  Some of theose boxes are reprinted stock white tube boxes.  You can usually tell when you see white edges outside the original labelling.  Another tell is identical coding on the inside flaps of the box, indicating there were printed from an image of a single box.

Hi All -

I really appreciate the information. 

A special thanks to @ Viridian for mention the "The straight glass, three getter tube has a side getter so will have silvering on the side in addition to on the top"

I do not want to delve into the what constitutes 'NEW' or 'USED' conversation at this time, but that may be a worthwhile string someday...

My question -  Within reasonable certainty, is this tube is NOS or is it USED?  

@inagroove Just look at the pins of the tubes. If you see scrapes along them the tube has been inserted into sockets a few times. An NOS tube will have no scrapes.

The pic you show has a very large side-getter patch (good), with light-gray fringes that indicate some light use - roughly consistent with the seller’s description. As use continues, the side patch typically shrinks (well before the top patches), with the fringing sometimes becoming more dominant. I have some GE 7581A with chrome side patches and NO fringing, that are probaly truly NOS. Anyways, to see a very large side getter patch on a power tube (dark metallic or chrome, NOT chalky white/gray or brown) is usually a good sign. (note: if you see a side patch on a tube that shouldn’t have a side getter, like an EL34, that’s bad news lol)

The debate on "NOS" nomenclature is boring semantics. NO I wouldn’t call this tube strictly NOS, but these days very few tubes left are. If the seller’s description is accurate, and seller can be trusted, I’d be happy with ’em.