Dumb question......why do you need a preamp?


You'd think after 50 years I would know this, but I don't. Aren't today's integrated enough?

troutbum

+1 for the comment by Soix on the tube preamp plus solid state power amp; when I switched from all solid state, then to all tube, and then to tube preamp with solid state monobloc power amps, I achieved a significantly higher level of sound quality.  I think I have hit near end state for the amount I have spent on my system that has both digital and analog sources.  Even my non-audiophile wife—who loves good music—commented on the realism … achieved with the tube/solid state combination.

...oh, I DO have a rather nice older pre I was gifted with...a long story there, as are most around my maelstrom....it's 'on-call' in the 6x6 for A/B, and has onboard room eq....

...as does the 'puter....which has 3 along with 'other' cheap tricks... 👍😎

Sometimes, AI can be your friend:

An integrated amplifier increases the strength of electrical signals to reproduce sound.  It combines a preamp, power amp, and other functions into a single unit. 

IOW, an integrated amplifier already includes a preamp so, no, if you have an integrated amplifier you should not need a stand-alone preamp.

Back in the day, preamps amplified very small electrical signals so they could then be adequately amplified by the power amplifier.  When digital players and DACs began outputting higher voltage signals, some people began using them to drive power amplifiers directly.  In those cases, the only other thing needed was a method to adjust the volume, so passive volume controls were introduced and, later, on-board volume controls began to show up in DACs.

However, some listeners began to notice that their systems sounded better with a preamp in the signal reproduction chain.  Why would a preamp be necessary when the DAC has enough output voltage to drive the power amp directly?  It turns out that having active preamp circuitry, even in cases where the DAC output offers plenty of voltage, improves the impedance ratio between the output from the DAC to the input into the amplifier, which reduces the effects of the interconnect cables.  As with most things in audio, there are trade-offs and the success of getting good sound without a preamp depends on the length of cables, the specific equipment used, as well as listener preferences.  Therefore, one size does not fit all. 

I use a McIntosh preamp and a separate power amp.  It allows for flexibility if you want more power you can just change your amp. Also flexibility with other components.  I have a turntable, R2R, and a streamer and a CD player all linked by the preamp.

You will always have a preamp, inside integrated amp, or separate preamp+poweramp. 

You can't just take 2V output of your DAC (or phono preamp) and go directly into the power amp. You would want to have volume control and input switch, otherwise it would play at 100% volume. Simple passive attenuator is simplest preamp (maybe not the best sounding, but thats different story...)