DAC Shootout Starts This Weekend


Okay...in another thread I promised to do a side-by-side evaluation of the Audiobyte HydraVox/Zap vs the Rockna Wavelight. Due to the astonishing incompetence of DHL this has been delayed. At the moment, I have a plethora of DACs here and am going to do a broader comparison.

I am going to do a compare of the Rockna Wavelight, Rockna Wavedream Signature, Audiobyte HydraVox/Zap, Chord Hugo 2, Chord Hugo TT2, Bricasti M3, Bricasti M1 Special Edition, Weiss 501 and the internal DAC card for an AVM A 5.2 Integrated amp as a baseline.

For sake of consistency, I am going to use that same AVM integrated amp driving Vivid Kaya 45s. I may branch out and do some listening on other speakers (Verdant Nightshade of Blackthorn and/or Wilson Benesch Vertexes) but want to use the Vivids for every compare as they are the fullest range speakers I have here. For sake of consistency I will use a Chord 2Go/2Yu connected via an Audioquest Diamond USB as a renderer. The only exception is the Hugo 2 which has a 2Go directly attached to it. I will use a Roon Nucleus+ as a server in all cases.

My plan is to use the same five songs on every DAC; In a Sentimental Mood from Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, Be Still My Beating Heart from Sting, Liberty from Anette Askvik, Duende from Bozzio Levin Stevens and Part 1 of Mozart String Quartet No 14 in G Major from the Alban Berg Quartet. The intent is to touch on different music types without going crazy.

I will take extensive notes on each listening session and write up a POV on the strengths of each unit. I am going to start this this Friday/Saturday and will be writing things up over the next month or so. If you have thoughts, comments or requests, I will be happy to try and accommodate. The one thing I am not going to do is make the list of songs longer as that has an exponential impact on this and make everything much harder. If and when other DACs come in on trade I may add to the list through time.
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I think the Linn supports fibre optic like the Lumin X1. If so, have you tried that input? I have heard this unit before in an all-Linn system. Maybe I am wrong about the fibre since I do not see it listed.
Next-generation Klimax DSM | Network Music Players | Linn USA

I think for a non-technical person having the DSP on the hardware (Space Optimization) is a simple choice than what I use, which is Convolution filters running on my ROON Core. Though I have turned this off in my current setups since the rooms have changed.

 

@yyzsantabarbara I am 99% certain you are correct that it has a fiber ethernet input like the Lumin.  I have not tested that as I don’t have a device to convert my signal to fiber and one I bought failed within two weeks.  If you have a suggestion I am open.

There is definitely something with an all Linn system.  They lent me the 360 Active speakers and the Exakt system is pretty cool tech.  That whole system with the Klimax is obscenely good.  It is $136,500 but is legitimately competitive in terms of quality at that level and has a higher WAF factor than anything I can put together in that price range with other gear.  My wife literally said I could put it in the living room assuming the line justifies what is a VERY chunky spend, even for a dealer. 
 

I also have since built my Selekt LP12 and with their cartridge into a modestly price phono (Uphorik is like $3450) and it is beating much more expensive setups.  The phono is excellent but doesn’t stand out as much with the Ortofon and Dynavector cartridges I have.  I also have the Moonriver 505 ($6k) and the Linn Kendo into Linn Uphorik beats Linn Kendo into Moonriver.  My Dynavector and Ortofon sound better through the Moonriver.  Synergy is magical when it saves money.  
 

More than anything, this is a brand that if you choose to buy it, plan on staying with it for a long time.  This is not a good product for equipment rollers. 

@verdantaudio I have 3 streamers that do fibre and I use 3 network switches ranging in price from $200, $75, $49. They all seem to sound the same to me.

What I do is use the Sonore SPF connections since it makes compatibility easy.

https://www.smallgreencomputer.com/collections/accessories

Get 2 of the SFP’s and a cable. Should be about $75 total. The cable can be 100's of feet long.

I use these switches to convert from RJ45 to Fibre. I find the special converters are flakey while the switches have not failed (knock on wood).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D8Y4RWYS?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PJPX47D?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_2&th=1

I have the older version of this (an excellent switch but I use all the connections in my office setup),

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeSwitch-Managed-Gigabit-ES-8-150W/dp/B01LHU98EK/ref=sr_1_3?crid=21URGMYS0TF7X&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.t9yPxjezTJNebqIMV0OTyfv0a8E4BYw40hbPL46ySPO8-V9shRgQxDZxQ5s40BKja2bpjY9m_CITWDkm4T4FCJXE-WI-pPg3CgDbr5VmdxjjW3bPNgH5dxtZrQEIpmuzGNajBZtMUt6sQ83ydZQwO8ZHDc1v9klwB-oGLDrPyDQ9CyrCqg9VZMIW9uZdlKSkRG-O--iXTHVdr1B29X-qCUDguk-B7Ri4zKm6Prdq652VK0pejb_kSHsczkIBpJ5kNvQo9yunlHNtoPVYFeEtx2fQQ9qDNnx_YBl62Y_IrBZv1eLoa0H-5kb74A43WTodZUSOl52yCJ67qgzYAUu7PbHtzUxUKYMIvajlUXqnByM.772y_keo9UxvKWWTUtLujeacVpSDFhlJjpHXPGwyWuQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=ubiquiti+switch&qid=1740341851&s=electronics&sprefix=Ubiquiti%2Celectronics%2C204&sr=1-3

 

 

 

@yyzsantabarbara   This is helpful.  I will pick up a device and see how it works when my new Klimax DSM arrives vs. ethernet straight from the wall and from the ethernet direct out from my Oladra.  My customer did not want to wait for a device to be built and since mine was very new...

@verdantaudio 

It is nice to see you posting on this thread again!

I'm a big fan of Accustic Arts. Their CD-Player 1 was my primary source for 20 years (until I got the MPS-8 and MPS-X from you) and I have always been interested in hearing their newer products.  Their components are beautifully built and my CDP-1 has been flawless, so I think they are worth checking out.