Dynaudio focus 360


I recently acquired a pair of Dynaudio focus 360's and hope there are folks here that have had these or similar Dynaudio's that can shed some light.

My system currently consist's of a Rega p6 and auralic vega1 into a  McIntosh mx110,to a adcom gfa5452 out to the focus 360's.

First off I know these speakers like a lot of power and currant,and I have plans to get a amp with 350 watts per channel.

Here is what is going on.

If I listen below 70% of my maximum listing volume,the sound falls flat on its face and sounds like a cheap radio with 4 inch speakers in it.

If I turn up to 80%,things sound much better,at least modern quality recordings.

Tunn up to 90%,things sound real good,until the singer backs off for a softer vocal delivery.Bam.The vocals fall way way back and way to low.

Same thing with electric guitar.As long as its playing lead up front in the mix it sounds good,but the rhythm guitar just melds into mush.No tight loud crunch where it normally is.

The vocals only sound clear and good when it is a sparse mix,with few instruments competing for space.

Then the vocals sound very very good.

One example:Alison Krauss Baby now that I Found You.

Stunning,I mean it sounded like she had walked up to me and was singing 3 feet from my face.

Please assure me these drop outs in mid-range and vocals will go away with big power and currant.

These speakers sound fantastic with acoustic instruments and drums.

They just can't reproduce electric instruments with the required oomph on my classic rock recordings.

They come close when I crank it to 100% of my listening volume,but still the krang of a Marshall stack is missing.

It is strange how when ever the vocals are just a little bit reserved the volume drops a lot and looses all body,even on the intro of a song.

I'am going to wait until I try these with the more powerful amp before I make my final judgement,just hoping I can get some encouragement here that all will be well.

Thanks

 

 

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twangy57

This is like the 6th thread OP had started on this subject. He's been told countless times to go audition speakers in person but no, he can't be bothered to drive to the big city and properly audition speakers. Instead he buys speakers based on YouTube videos.

In the immortal words of the immortal PIL song:

This is what you want

This is what you get

Now toss your garbage amp in the trash where it belongs and go get proper ones. It ain't gonna be cheap but it's gonna sound good. Good luck

devinplombier

Thanks,that ’s really helpful.

 I have purchased a different amp(Conrad Johnson Premier 350),which I should get by the end of the month.

I was just asking if I could expect improvements in the area’s I described.

Sorry if my post annoyed you.

@twangy57 Not quite encouragement, but I am very experienced, and honest. With all of your posts, I hate to be the barer of bad news, but if you are expecting your 360s to reproduce a Marshall stack, at the spl levels I believe you are speaking about, you are fooling yourself. I believe your new amp will be wonderful, at 1st, but certain weaknesses will show themselves quickly, with your speakers. Truth be told, there are speakers that can be cranked, and those that cannot. Dynamic compression is a real thing, with amplifiers, and with speakers. Keep in mind as well, that the louder one plays music in their room, the room itself can show weaknesses, way before your ears. Your use of percentages, 70%, 80%, 90%, is confusing to me. Are these numbers based on the volume control setting of your preamp, or are you using a decibel meter measuring the room from your listening seat? Another thing I always mention in my posts, and you mentioned it here, are the production qualities of the "recorded music" we all are listening to. Such a variation. A great system set up ime, is a system that can play all music at all volume levels, that the listener desires, and enjoys. My best, MrD.

@twangy57  -  You should see an improvement assuming that:

  • The CJ is working properly.  It is a very nice amp.  It is a major step up from the Adcom.  However, it is another "vintage" piece that could be as much as 23 years old.  So, questions like, has it been recapped? Has it been professionally checked out?, etc.
  • The McIntosh preamp (vintage again, first made in 1962) isn't having problems.  So, same type of questions as above.  What shape/age are the tubes? Are they due for replacing?
  • You don't have a room or enviromental problem.
  • Your cabling is up to par and in good shape.

and question... I don't remember from your previous posts, what are you using for a phono preamp with the Rega table? and what shape is the cartridge in?

- Jeff

twangy57

It’s not this particular thread, it’s all the ones you start asking for basically the same advice, getting it, disregarding it, refusing to audition gear, and then starting a new thread when you get tired of being told to go audition gear. 

Have you auditioned the CJ you’re getting? Just sayin

The Premier 350 was a good and capable amp though, so you may have lucked out and may only need appropriate speakers at this time.

And, of course, what @mrdecibel said.