There are many posters who ask for advice and don't follow any, that they are given. It's just part of the game. It's also typical to refuse to research and listen properly.
Those are mostly "fly-by" members.
Dynaudio focus 360
I recently acquired a pair of Dynaudio focus 360's and hope there are folks here that have had these or similar Dynaudio's that can shed some light.
My system currently consist's of a Rega p6 and auralic vega1 into a McIntosh mx110,to a adcom gfa5452 out to the focus 360's.
First off I know these speakers like a lot of power and currant,and I have plans to get a amp with 350 watts per channel.
Here is what is going on.
If I listen below 70% of my maximum listing volume,the sound falls flat on its face and sounds like a cheap radio with 4 inch speakers in it.
If I turn up to 80%,things sound much better,at least modern quality recordings.
Tunn up to 90%,things sound real good,until the singer backs off for a softer vocal delivery.Bam.The vocals fall way way back and way to low.
Same thing with electric guitar.As long as its playing lead up front in the mix it sounds good,but the rhythm guitar just melds into mush.No tight loud crunch where it normally is.
The vocals only sound clear and good when it is a sparse mix,with few instruments competing for space.
Then the vocals sound very very good.
One example:Alison Krauss Baby now that I Found You.
Stunning,I mean it sounded like she had walked up to me and was singing 3 feet from my face.
Please assure me these drop outs in mid-range and vocals will go away with big power and currant.
These speakers sound fantastic with acoustic instruments and drums.
They just can't reproduce electric instruments with the required oomph on my classic rock recordings.
They come close when I crank it to 100% of my listening volume,but still the krang of a Marshall stack is missing.
It is strange how when ever the vocals are just a little bit reserved the volume drops a lot and looses all body,even on the intro of a song.
I'am going to wait until I try these with the more powerful amp before I make my final judgement,just hoping I can get some encouragement here that all will be well.
Thanks
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gano374 posts There are many posters who ask for advice and don't follow any, that they are given. It's just part of the game. It's also typical to refuse to research and listen properly. Those are mostly "fly-by" members.
Interesting, I have never thought of listening properly,could you give a couple examples of how to listen properly. Are there recordings you would listen to to test your system? Thanks
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When I say listen properly, I mean listen in a comparable environment, and with a setup similar to what you would use. Not youtube, not different gear, it takes a long time to learn what you like. It's not about brands. It's about synergy and sound and connection. You can decide you must work with one component and build "around" it. The most puzzling thing to me is "350 watts per channel". Who needs that? A stadium, maybe.... The bigger and more complex the gear, the harder it is to get it right. The source is usually easy. The amp and the speaker is the tricky part. You have a small space, don't try to overpower it. Go for a sophisticated, fine tuned result, smaller is better. I always had the best sound with simple 2x60 watts amps from audiophile grade manufacturers. Not necessarily expensive but hifi, 2 channel oriented. I can give you a list if you are interested.
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@twangy57 thank you for your response. I obviously read your meaning incorrectly. I hope everything works out for you. Music listening is awesome for many of us, so I always wish the best. As far as stuffing foam in the ports on the 360s, I never heard them that way, but my feeling and experience is that they were designed as a ported box and therefore would sound best this way, at least the way Dynaudio intended with the design. Just have to dial them in within the room, which can take a while. My best, MrD. |
Ok, I thought you meant listening to certain recordings and how your system performed in different area’s. To address where did I get 350 watts,I got that by reading many posts on here. I went back and read every post on the dynaudio focus 360’s I could find. Many said these speakers need high currant,and while I agree that sounds like over kill,I also talked to someone at dynaudio and they said they have heard back from customers that these speakers like 200-300 watts per channel. I have heard several conrad johnson tube amps and really liked them. I know solid state is different but everyone that reviewed these have said there are excellent. One other thing was the output impedance of my Mac mx110 is 10k,and macintosh recommends a input impedance of at least 100k on any amp you use with it. There aren’t many solid state amps with that high of a input impedance. Particularly in the under 5000 range. I would be glad to hear what amps you think might work well with these speakers. I was going to go with the Pass labs X250.5. But the input impedance is only 20/30 kohms. I was told by a couple of audio shops this would not be a good match. I’am starting to like these speakers even with the Adcom amp now that I have moved them closer to the wall and plugged the back ports with the foam inserts,but of course I know they would probably sound much better with a better amp. Thanks
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