Dynaudio focus 360


I recently acquired a pair of Dynaudio focus 360's and hope there are folks here that have had these or similar Dynaudio's that can shed some light.

My system currently consist's of a Rega p6 and auralic vega1 into a  McIntosh mx110,to a adcom gfa5452 out to the focus 360's.

First off I know these speakers like a lot of power and currant,and I have plans to get a amp with 350 watts per channel.

Here is what is going on.

If I listen below 70% of my maximum listing volume,the sound falls flat on its face and sounds like a cheap radio with 4 inch speakers in it.

If I turn up to 80%,things sound much better,at least modern quality recordings.

Tunn up to 90%,things sound real good,until the singer backs off for a softer vocal delivery.Bam.The vocals fall way way back and way to low.

Same thing with electric guitar.As long as its playing lead up front in the mix it sounds good,but the rhythm guitar just melds into mush.No tight loud crunch where it normally is.

The vocals only sound clear and good when it is a sparse mix,with few instruments competing for space.

Then the vocals sound very very good.

One example:Alison Krauss Baby now that I Found You.

Stunning,I mean it sounded like she had walked up to me and was singing 3 feet from my face.

Please assure me these drop outs in mid-range and vocals will go away with big power and currant.

These speakers sound fantastic with acoustic instruments and drums.

They just can't reproduce electric instruments with the required oomph on my classic rock recordings.

They come close when I crank it to 100% of my listening volume,but still the krang of a Marshall stack is missing.

It is strange how when ever the vocals are just a little bit reserved the volume drops a lot and looses all body,even on the intro of a song.

I'am going to wait until I try these with the more powerful amp before I make my final judgement,just hoping I can get some encouragement here that all will be well.

Thanks

 

 

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twangy57
newbee

I can appreciate where you are coming from.

I grew up playing guitar since I was 12 years old,and I’am 67 now.

I don’t think I conveyed my expectations very well.

I was having problems with these speakers recreating the volume of the guitar in the mix of some rock recordings that I have listened to for 50 years.They just sounded neutered and to smooth.

I also understand what you mean by creating a more versatile system that can play most types of music well.

If I’am understanding what you are saying,don’t build a system striving to make some poorly engineered recording sound good,at the expense of all the excellent recordings out there.

If I have that right ,I agree with that.

Since the speaker location adjustments things are sounding better,and I have been enjoying listening for past the few hours.

The guitars are sounding like guitars.I listened to Who’s Next and it was really good.

Vocals are sounding better also,not dropping way down when the singer uses a softer delivery

I’am must admit,I was surprised  just how much difference it made by moving the speakers about 4 inches in closer to the front wall.

As the far as which amp to match with the mx110,I almost wish I would have just bought the speakers first,but I had already bought the preamp before getting on here.So I will keep looking,but at least this set up is sounding better to me now.

Thanks

@twangy57 , did you hear this problem through your Polk Monitor 10s? Although I was a horn guy (still am), I admired many Polk speakers and have had quite a few floor standers by them, including the 10s, in my rotations. I found every model to be able to play at a satisfying listening level, with all types of music. They can handle loud; I am talking about the models manufactured before they went overseas for build, as the 10s. However, I do understand why you changed from them and, did well. Keep in mind, that the 360s reveal a good amount of detail, so you might hear some weaknesses in the recordings themselves. Many listeners only listen to "the finer engineered recordings", and I can understand why. You experienced this in your original post. I would not be surprised if you start listening more and more to these quality recordings. Everyone loves music, but to only a small number of us (relatively to the rest of the world), this is a characteristic of being an audiophile. yes Last note. IME, most classic rock is not recorded well, so you may hear things in the recordings...use of compression, equalization etc., which becomes obvious once you reach a level of transparency. My truth that I believe, is for bad recordings, listen to the musicians "play" and forget everything else. I feel the same way about great recordings too (1st and foremost, it is all about composition and musicianship), but when one of these recordings is playing on your system, you understand why you spent the money upgrading. It is amazing how recordings can sound so good through the home system. You will have a lot of fun with the CJ 350 (I liked it the few times I listened with it in a friend's system). MrD.

I almost wish I would have just bought the speakers first.

Kevin almost wished he had reinstalled the gas tank before he fueled up. 

Oy vey

OP, if I looked at the specs correctly of the amp you are using, they list 100 wpc into 8 ohms?  And those speakers are listed as 4 ohm nominal impedance?  Does your current amp have any specs listed for what it does into 4 ohms?

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