Yamaha HX-10000 phonostage, any views?

For 1000 euro even I might be tempted.

I frequently cruise audio salons in Tokyo where often great used gear is displayed alongside new stuff. I’ve never seen one of these for sale, but then again I never knew it existed until now so might have overlooked one for sale.

The HX-10000 is guaranteed to be one thing, being it is a product from a Bygone Era, and has all the traits that come from the Top Tier Brands from a certain Global Region producing Audio Equipment from that Era.

I stated in a earlier in the Thread Post: 

" As seen from all the Mainstay Japanese Brands offering Audio Devices from this era, the devices produced as their exclusive TOTR Sale Items were typically coming with materials that were selected for their Mass and Volume. 

Fortunately, It was soon to be learnt in the World of Audio Equipment, betterment was able to be attained using a lot lot less Volume and as time evolved Mass was also seen to be a betterment if substantially reduced. "

Large Companies once had the pick of the Newly Educated Scholars entering into the Big Wide World. Company Philosophy will have been the main aim, with R&D tightly tracing the Companies wants. Across Competitors based in a similar region Globally, all were doing similar practices, recruiting scholars and training them to the place where between Brands much of a muchness was their separation. 

  I have heard numerous Vintage Equipment that is SS and Valve Based, where SS equipment is from the era of much of a muchness as a separation between them.

I have not heard one that did not supply a musical experience that was not enjoyed, but at the same time, I did not have an experience that resulted in my feeling the need to have a device readily available at hand, but that is for myself.

A friend who is a EE and a individual I totally Trust in all things Audio, but especially the Analogue Side, has Overhauled a large range of Amp's from this era. The same Person also has used for multiple years a Sansui Amp, which I have heard on quite a few occasions and been more than satisfied with what was experienced.

With the local support that can be used if a purchase of this Type was to be realised, the idea to go in that direction does not appeal.

Using a BOM of approx' £2000 I can go to a Individual who knows more about Phonostage Design in relation to modern methods able to be adopted, who I will feel will have more worldly knowledge than EE's under the constraint of Corporate Companies Philosophy and have designs that are surpassing that from a bygone era from certain designs.

For such monies, even If I were to enforce my influence onto the design, I could have a 10mm Densified Wood Chassis, I might even be able to Wangle a Densified Wood PCB if a PCB was part of the design.

I will get PC CCC wire used on conjunction with very high quality Cable Connections.

I will also be supplied a Phonostage that will be hard to surpass in the measurements taken.

Such an opportunity makes the idea of going back in time to try and move forward in time, be an avoidance of the use of very accurate components from the modern era, produced to a Topology by an individual who knows the importance of such practices. Being Nostalgic towards a Olden Device in this area of Audio seems from my eyes to be a waste of a Opportunity. 

I would be extremely keen to learn what  £5K BOM can bring to fruition.       

Dear Pindac, You wrote,

" As seen from all the Mainstay Japanese Brands offering Audio Devices from this era, the devices produced as their exclusive TOTR Sale Items were typically coming with materials that were selected for their Mass and Volume. 

Fortunately, It was soon to be learnt in the World of Audio Equipment, betterment was able to be attained using a lot lot less Volume and as time evolved Mass was also seen to be a betterment if substantially reduced. "

By this, are you inferring that modern audio companies are uniformly striving to reduce mass and volume? (I assume that mass means weight, and "volume" is a reference to the physical size .)

There are certainly some examples of TT makers who prize low mass and therefore also reduced physical size as a feature of their TTs, most prominently Rega, but Rega have been doing that forever.  And sure, electronics that use transistors and integrated circuits will naturally tend to be smaller and lighter than electronics that use tubes, but in the area of electronics and speakers, I don’t see where small size and low weight per se are perceived as advantageous to performance.  Class D amplifiers are the smallest and lightest possible per unit of power, and no one believes they as a class are superior to other types of amplifiers. Many hold the contrary opinion, in fact. So what exactly were you trying to say? Forgive me if I have misunderstood.  The HX10000 seems to me to be about the same size as many 2-box high end, high cost phono stages we have today.

I assume that mass means weight, and "volume" is a reference to the physical size

Volume refers to an abundance of Parts used for the Topology and Abundance of Parts.

After having been involved with EE's and EE's that moved on to become the Proprietors of Sales Business and Directors of Manufacturing Companies producing Audio Devices. I am aware there are different ethics today, how one expresses care for the Atmosphere and Pollution capable of getting into the Local Environment are considerations seen attractive for an individual to have. 

I am fortunate I meet individuals who have this as a fundamental and pass on this side of their practices to others building on the encouragement.

I have found my way by being pro-active in participating in the Circular Economy.

My Hobby of listening to Audio has a Green Footprint, my interest in experiencing a broad range of Audio, has produced a little more C02 than some others, but possibly a lot less than a constant equipment changer, chasing the audio dream whilst grasping the Greasy Pole to be climbed.           

The major change in audio components that has arisen due to environmental concerns is the elimination of lead in solder. That edict did not emanate from the manufacturers;; it came from environmental scientists. It also goes without saying that you never see mercury vapor rectifiers in tube equipment or beryllium cantilevers. There may be other new rules in force in the EU or the UK. Other than that, I would say our hobby is squeaky clean. If environmental consciousness was the intent of your earlier post, it got past me at least. I can’t see anything environmentally dangerous in the HX10000.