Mcintosh MVP871 vs Krell SACD


Has anyone compared these players on SACD/Readbook?I have heard that the Mac is just a Denon?
thanks
mclsound
So let me try and understand this correctly!!Not only do we the consumer get screwed for a drive system but the $1500 replacement is a cheap computer drive?
I will not do this.
As for the shop,I not only gave them business,but recomended them.One fella sent his 600c in for caps(a half hour drive)and it took them 4 months.He feels like a VIP knowing my player has been with them for 500 days.I am incredibly saddend by all of this and donnot know how to just watch $4500 of my money dissapear while they give me nothing but excuses.NOT OUR FAULT.
I've been down this road before with Krell. But delt with them directly.
When my drive went down in my sacd standard. They upgraded it for free
after demanding it. If your unit is still under warranty call Krell (do not
email them) and ask for the service manager or the vice president of the
company. They should help you out. Keep demanding a free upgrade to
version 3 or if you can trade it in for one of their new models which are
way better than the sacd standard. Even their cheaper $2500 one is
better. If you any trouble message me directly.
I've been down this road before with Krell. But delt with them directly. When my drive went down in my sacd standard. They upgraded it for free after demanding it. If your unit is still under warranty call Krell (do not emIl them) ask for the service manager or the vice president of the company. They should help you out. Keep demanding a free upgrade to version 3 or if you trade it in for one of their new models which are way better than the sacd standard. Even their cheaper $2500 one is better. If you any trouble message me directly.
Get it fixed at Krell. You should be able to get the upgrade for free if the unit is still under warranty. Then sell it on AgoN and get their new player, which retails for $2500. The new player sounds better, has digital inputs and uses reliable Esoteric drive.

The SACD Standard is the model to forget. It was doomed the day they opted for unreliable Philips drive (ofc, they did not know that back then). Other manufacturers, like dCS, Musical Fidelity have the same problems. Its all Philips fault and their 'engineering'.

Krell at least did not left their customers empty handed, and enginereed a replacement drive that can be retrofited. NO OTHER manufacturer I know of did this. Give Krell credit for this !

At least Krell learned from their mistakes (or more precisely - Philips mistakes) and now uses the tried and tested Esoteric drive. It should be good for years.

FYI - the Denon drives that Mac uses also aren't reliability champs. Esp 201 drive, which is also very noisy.

FYI #2 - the $1500 upgrde is not an easy drive swap. The servoboard is replaced as well, the new (blue) display is fitted, complete with a big board, the size of the front panel. I belive it is $1000 parts and $500 labour.
I have heard this about the MCD201 before. I own one and it has never failed or created noise. As for the original question...do you need DVD? Do you like McIntosh? If yes then get a McIntosh SACD player. If the older versions are not what you want get the MCD500 which can also be used for outboard DAC connection. I have never heard anyone complain about McIntosh service, ever!