"I Trust My Ears"

@gdaddy1  I am 84 years old and by definition must have deficient high frequency hearing but I still can't listen to most B&W speakers for long because of their over emphasis on high frequencies. Is that my ears or my brain?

@mazian you don't have deficient hearing in the problem areas which is mostly the lower treble region between 2 and 6kHz unless you can't hear to 6kHz.

But yes B&W newer iterations have always sounded stringent, overly bitey to me and the data doesn't lie about that

So preferring bright speakers because of high frequency hearing loss isn't a bulletproof phenomenon. I know many people who don't like B&W, Martin Logan and many speaker brands that have overly zealous presentation in the upper registers

@devinplombier someone gets it. Instead of blindly doing whack-a-mole with your speaker preferences. You demo something that intrigues you, look and pray it has a competent and full spin data, not some measly on axis FR. Then try to demo other speakers within that form of presentation so you can narrow it down.

That's how I ended up with my setup.

Also shunning measurements when the room is basically the biggest denominator is weird to me. Cos if you have a dedicated space and just use vibes to set it up. It will sound good but you'd be bottlenecking yourself not optimising the setup with help of some RTA

@kofibaffour 

I haven’t gotten around to room measurements yet. I will though. Some measurements are invaluable. Others are worthless. A person can’t just be against measurements, period.

But the word itself tends to have negative connotations around here. Talk measurements up in a positive way and next thing you know some folks are waving pitchforks and burning Amir effigies, so when it comes up in a thread as a side topic it can be a distraction.

@devinplombier ah well. Their loss.