Benchmark VS Mark levinson 36 DAC ?????????


which one better?. given : any transport
Classe amp(mono block)
B&W speaker or 1.6 magnepan
thanks for all input
winsound
Theduke - Initially DAC1 sounded a little thin until Signetics factory that made NE5532 burned down (2000/2001). Texas Instruments bought license, redesigned die and Benchmark got fuller sound. Another possible problem was very high output impedance on RCA outputs in very early Benchmarks.
Probably overdriving the next device in the audio chain

It was a little muffled, lacking detail and resolution.

Knghifi,

Many people had that experience. This Benchmark DAC1 is primarily a pro product and belts our a much higher output voltage (much higher signal levels) than layman/consumer audio systems. The reason for this is that pros need to deal with even greater dynamic range than consumers and use higher specification equipment (allows a greater dynamic range above the noise floor due to much stronger analog line level signal).

If it sounded bad and muffled then it was probably overdriving the next device in your audio chain. This would not occur all the time during soft notes but it would sure screw up transients with brief but louder peaks.

Benchmark actually modified their design in order to REDUCE the signal levels so that this does not happen to consumers. There are padding resistors inside the newer models and they set these at the factory so that the signal is reduced by approx 20 dB - so that it does not overdrive consumer gear. By removing the padding resistor you can get the full benefit and dynamic range of the Pro line level signal strength (but you need gear that is equally competent).
Shadorne, I think the opposite is true if it's overdriving the next device in the audio chain ... sound will be bright, edgy, hard ... It's just didn't sounded very good soft or loud.

In the PCX mod, Chris Johnson replaces/voices the whole analog output stage with much higher quality parts especially the op-amps. I don't chase the latest and greatest digital gear and was very happy with it for several years.
overdriving the next device in the audio chain ... sound will be bright, edgy, hard

No. What happens is that the signal completely saturates the input of the next stage. This usually causes instability as the amp oscillates in and out of complete saturation. Usually it sounds all muffled and blurred. The more the signal is saturated the more you get dropouts. Eventually total saturation of the input often produces no output at all as the device just sits on one of the power rails (flat lines).

Severely overdriving a device can also damage it permanently.

Anyway, I think that my explanation fits your observations. And let's face it, your observation do run counter to what almost everyone reports about the DAC1. (Never heard it called muffled. Too bright. Too clinical. Too harsh and other comments along these lines but never muffled.)

Perhaps your DAC1 was faulty?
"Perhaps your DAC1 was faulty?" - or it was one of the first Benchmarks with very high output impedance on unbalanced (RCA) outputs?