Lampizator question

Frank,

You are free to love what you want and I have no qualm with that, but what I don't appreciate is the personal assault! The very first thing my co-distributor and I did when we took over Lampi sales in North America was substantially lower the retail pricing structure to make our products accessible to REAL people!

In achieving the above, we moved to a direct distribution model and have no dealers! I don't know what some "dealer in Connecticut" told you but they are NOT affiliated with us.

You should know that Generation 4 was around for THREE (3) YEARS before it was replaced by the generation 5 (current), YEARS not months and we are still MORE THAN HAPPY to work on and update legacy products. As stated I have a customer's long discontinued Level 2 DAC from 2010 coming in for upgrades right now!

Retail pricing for the 2-box L7, was $9500 in the US and 6900 in Europe before it was discontinued due to overwhelming customer preference for the Big 7. Even maxed out when the Euro was at its peak, you're talking in the ~11k range.

When I see my customers I'm greeted with handshakes and hugs and I think the vast majority regard me as generous.

Greedy indeed!

Fred A.

Wisnon,
May be, Fsmithjack is not using the proper language, but there is some truth in some of his assertions. I also think Lampizator comes up too quick with newer models that I personally will not buy a new Lampi. I will always look for a used/demo because it's like cell phones these days - you buy one today, and there's a new one/better one tomorrow. I think digital in general is moving really fast and people have to use their heads/pockets wisely before they jump ship.

Wisnon... You are so wrong… I said it was my fault I didn't get the DAC. That dealer is a great dealer I have no problem with them or any dealer. God knows how hard business has been and is on them. I support the dealer. He is a US dealer and has my support as do they all. Don't go twisting stuff and making stuff up. That helps nobody or anything.
My shots were directed directly at the Eastern European Company that in my opinion too quickly releases new top flight DACS and that makes for a shorter life cycle that in turn hurts the agoner’s pocket books that purchased them new. It’s pretty obvious what my ulterior motive is. That is to call them out for this and it is my opinion not slander. That said in all fairness I did know that the use of the word Greedy would garner more attention but that was the point.
My support is to my fellow agoner’s not to some well to do eastern European company that in all fairness deserves some criticism here in my opinion for this approach. Greedy may have been a little over the top but it’s not that bad either…We are a transparent, liberal western society (well we like to think we are) that pays attention to these types of things. No earth shattering concepts here…
I said how great their DACS are and how great they are made and how great they sound. I said they may be the best digital in world and that I wanted to buy one myself. I said how great of a deal they are used as well and recommended them as best buy used or demo.
I have every right to question this company’s short life cycle of their top DAC's? They are not above reproach. Greedy is not that bad of a word... The problem is that a lot of what I say rings true…
This is a forum for members to give their opinions. The member asked why there are so many out there? Fair question and I am sure it can be answered many ways. Because so popular people want to upgrade, because the newer model is hot? Because tubes are awesome, because this or that. I was giving my opinion that doesn’t mean it’s the right answer it’s just what I think.
If enough people read this and it gets to the owner of this company (highly doubtful) and its gets him to think about this (even more doubtful) a little then great maybe it helps an owner in the future. I am out for the owners, the members, my comrades, and the people paying for them new and taking the deprecation hits. That's my motive or even better if an agoner thinking about buying a new one thinks wow he has a point then even better. This is not just Lampi I think companies need to take their owners and people that invested in their products into consideration when they are real quick to come out with a new or drop their prices way below what they were just to sell me. I understand they need to make money but there needs to be line where the customers that recently bought the equipment enters into the conversation and IMO Lampi deserves criticism here and even though I was little brash my motives are anything but unclear…

Fred I had a response I sent a while ago and it was before you write this... It still hung up by the mods before your response. I will let you read that first...

Buy an ayre. They provide updates at reasonable pricing and sound amazing for half the money. I bought my dac as a demo for 1800 6 years ago and now with the dsd update I could get 2400 for it. What they are charging for new lampizators is obscene as is the case with a lot of things in this hobby.