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Strange Tonearm Tweak. Long

As you all know, I am a little different. I like to read and study stuff like tonearm technology. I noticed that some of the better unipivot designs have employed "outrigger" style outboard weighting systems on their arms, that work like a tightrope-walker's balance pole. This not only balances azimuth, but also gives the arm better stability to lateral deflections from the cartridge suspension, so the arm is not moved when the stylus is pushed laterally by the groove information. I began to think on this, and I wondered why no gimbal-bearing arm makers are doing this. Surely since the vertical plane rides on a vertical axis bearing, there is still some chance for the arm to be laterally deflected by the stylus, when the stylus should be doing all of the moving, not the arm. I think that this is why they use heavy arms, but a heavy arm in the vertical movement plane is not good for tracking. A heavy arm in the horizontal movement plane is good for resisting sideways deflection that would impair pickup function.

So I decided to try increasing the mass of my tonearm in the lateral plane, while keeping it light in the vertical plane, by the use of "outrigger" weights, just like a unipivot does.

I bought lead fishing weights that looked like long rifle bullets(just the lead part) They were about an inch long and about 3/8" diameter, and weighed 12 grams each. I drilled into the bases about 1/4" and press-fitted them onto the nuts that hold the arm into the bearing yoke, so they stuck out straight sideways, like sideways spikes. This put the weight out pretty far to the sides as outriggers, and kept the weight centered exactly around the bearing pivot axis so it did not increase the vertical mass significantly, but it did very slightly. It did not influence the tracking force at all.

So now the arm had outrigger stabilizers on it in the horizontal plane of motion.

I put on a record and sat down to listen. Let me tell you, fellas, this was a mind blower. I have never heard this much information come out of a cartridge before. I heard sounds on records that I had listened to for 30 years, and never knew those sounds were on the record! And I have had some pretty good analog gear in my time. And what I didn't own, I heard at the audio store I worked at. This is the most astounding mod I have ever heard on a tonearm. And it cost me $1.49 for the fishing weights, and I got 3 extras.

The only slightly negative thing about it, is that it increases the anti-skating force, so you have to cut that back a little, and if you have some marginal scratches that might skip, they are more likely to skip with this mod, due to the resistance to sideways movement provided by the outriggers. I had this happen once last night, but I didn't consider it a problem.

But the increase in dynamics, and detail and overall sound quality is astronomical. It blew me away.

I have a DL103, which is a very stiff cartridge, and it may be that this is not needed for a higher compliance cart. But, I think that it would be good for anything that is medium or lower in compliance.

The key to it, is that it only increases the resistance to sideways movement, without interfering with the effective mass of the arm, or the vertical swing movement that needs to stay light to track warps. I played some warped records with this mod, and they played just as well as without the mod, except they sounded better.

I have a pretty good analog setup now, but I can say without reservation, that this mod made my rig sound better than any analog rig that I have ever heard in my life. I have never heard a Rockport.

Stabilizing the arm against unwanted lateral deflection increases the information retrieval and dynamics by a very large percentage. If your arm is not set up like a Rega style arm, then you can glue a 1 ounce long rod across the top of the bearing housing(sideways) like a tightrope-walker's balance pole. Use lead if you can, it won't ring. You don't have to do any permanent changes to your arm that might wreck its resale value to try this out. If it has anywhere near the effect on your system as it had on mine, you won't be taking it off.

It may come close to the movement of your cueing lever, so make sure you have clearance to use it. Mine was close, and I have to come in from the side now to use the lever, at the end of a record. That is fine with me! This was a major, major improvement in the sound of my rig. It is staying permanently. As in "forever".

If you are a little tweak-oriented, and not afraid to do stuff like this. You should try it. It will knock you over.
twl
dougdeacon
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Zaikesman,
I remember posting somewhere (maybe on this thread but who could find it) that side weights threaded for in/out adjustability would be useful. I think the tungsten side weights on the Graham 2.2 are like that (4yanx?).

My thought was just an instinct, not as well thought out as what you and Tom are doing. I really appreciate the continuing contributions to tonearm theory engendered by this thread. Maybe I'll uprade my HIFI Mod some day, though I can't imagine how I'd get the existing weights off without wrecking the arm.

To heck with this pivoting nonsense. I want a Kuzma Air Line! I'm off to buy a lotto ticket...
basement
245 posts
 
There are some really interesting thoughts here in the last few post, as far as thoughts or ideas that eventually turn into knowledge. It is for one useful when we attempt to measure and discover that the measurements are not exactly what we expect- we figure out there is something else going on and we learn something. One thing pointed out here is that the grooves of a record are cut at a 45 degree angle-so then how could a horizontal mass not have an effect on vertical mass? (as it relates to its affect on the suspension). I wonder how these grooves are cut into these various test records that are able to relate to being able to determine separete vertical and horizontal resonences, and wheather these are still existing the same way when the same system is playing a record with grooves cut at 45's. My ears suggest that as I listen to the differences with this particular mod is there is greater channel separation.
We all know that resonence points are important, and tonearm designers are sure to make sure they're designs fall within these parameters. There is also a definite importance on mass, and the placement of such, as it relates to the evacuation of energy, and it is clear in the more recent trends of the better tonearms that have recently added mass to they're arms in particular areas and gained improvements.
A little earlier on in this thread it was brought to our attention that the sidewieghts could be used to effect a change in anti-skate behavior. It made me think about the effects of bearing placement, as it relates to weight (or mass) placement, as it relates to the behavior and tracking ability of the arm. In both the immedia and the sme, the bearings are placed by the designers to minimize tracking error, according to the relative travel of the arm, BUT, changing the placement of the mass in a similar way, such as some of the aftermarket rega counterweights, and the upgrades on the graham, show similar results, without changing bearing placement.
The best unipivots in use today, namely the graham, the immedia, and the vpi, pay close attention to the placement of mass because they have to-it relates directly to the stability of the arm as it relates to tracking- and as designers shift and add mass, they continue to get better results. It is also, perhaps, that as the same attention is payed to pivoted arms, we get the same results, which might lead to the conclusion the while there are advantages to a unipivot as it relates to bearing quality/cost and friction, that perhaps it has more to do with the placement and attention of the mass.
Another case in point might be the popularity and performance of air bearing designs. Very complicated, and while they do show themselves capable of a high level of performance, it was a matter of time until pivoted, and unipovoted arms showed many of the positive aspects of the air bearing designs without the complications. Could very well be, that the sole advantage in actual use, of these air bearing designs is the vertical/horizontal mass relationships inherent in they're designs.
Of corse, the very best arms are very expensive, and rightly so because of the costly construction, as it seems that often certain improvements and uprades are costly to execute. There are some aspects of some costly arms where the quality of the construction relates directly to the performance. And then there are some aspects where improvements are made to the design that are by chance, or because the designer thinks the improvments are the result of what the intention is. That is why this thread is so fun. That is where this thread is at, and that is also why it is so amazing that as TWL comes up with these ideas and experiments that seem to break the rules, it not only forces us to change our perception of what a "properly" designed tonearm is, we make great sounding improvements that I am convinced would further the technology the more we understand them.

twl OP
3,251 posts
 
Doug, I thought about making the weights threaded for adjustability, but finally decided that it left too much to chance. Also, any threaded pieces will set up resonance points at the joints, unless very securely locked, and even then they could still have some(ie. removeable headshell joint). They are right on the axle, so resonance could be a problem. Also, that would raise the cost noticeably. It would be worth a try for an experienced user who knows what he's doing with cartridge compliance matching.

I'd be willing to make some units with adjustability for someone, but the machining costs and labor might make them quite expensive on a small scale manufacturing basis. I've talked with the guys at Starsound about making this item in a more professional(and possibly adjustable)form, but so far it is on the back burner.

This plain model that I'm making has a pretty good working range for most cartridges(5cu-15cu), and is simple and cheap.
twl OP
3,251 posts
 
Alex, as you mention, the actual lateral mass is the combined mass of the tonearm, cartridge, counterweight, bearing housing, AND my added weights. All arms, of course, have some amount of lateral mass built-in as part of the basic components. Usually it is similar to the vertical mass. But some tonearms have designed-in some additional lateral mass to give similar benefits as the HiFi mod has, notably the OL Encounter and Illustrious which do not need my mods.

Regarding your multiple resonance point theories, I think it has merit. By distributing the 2 resonance points over a wider range, it will have less additive effects resulting in lower amplitudes, but over a wider range. By keeping this range small and in the "ideal" range between 8Hz and 12Hz, the additive amplitudes can be minimized and still not have adverse audible effects. In Doug's case(Shelter cartridges) the 11Hz vertical and 9Hz horizontal both fall in the "ideal" range, and are wide enough apart to reduce additive amplitudes. This will result in significantly less mass/resonance amplitudes compared to having both(vert.& horiz.) resonating at the same freq. and causing a doubling of the resonating amplitude. In an ideal world, we could try to produce these amplitudes at the exact same point, but 180 degrees out-of-phase, thus causing cancellation of the resonance altogether. I haven't figured out how to do that yet. So this narrowly distributed resonance may be the best way to go so far.

As far as the idea you had about the counterweight with side-weights, the weights must be located exactly at the pivot axle, or else you are adding mass to the vertical component. My weights are small-diameter, and concentric with the center of the rotating bearing axle, so they have minimal(if any) effect on vertical mass. All of the HiFi mod effect is on the horizontal mass, so as to keep vertical mass unchanged, for good warp tracking. In addition, having the weights made of lead will damp any resonances that might adversely affect the performance, and the extra weight attached to the axle actually makes the axle itself less likely to become excited or chatter in the bearing clearances.

In some cases, a very simple idea or device can address a wide range of problems effectively, as long as it is well thought-out. I have resisted doing any big changes to it, since it is working so well as it is.

I think this thread is turning out to be a lot of fun.
twl OP
3,251 posts
 
Basement, I agree that placement of mass, as well as the amount of mass in various planes, is very important to the overall success of a tonearm design. This is still an evolving art/science, even after all these years. A natural inquisitive nature is needed to spend time thinking and testing new ideas. Maybe some people will be spurred into making the next leap forward to a totally new tonearm design, or just the next evolutionary discovery, after reading some of our posts here. In any case, I think this thread has become one of the real reasons why forums can be so good for the development of the hobby.

I really appreciate all of the posts and ideas that have been presented here on this thread, in a most genuine way. Maybe all of us "tonearm geeks" needed someplace to converse. I'm glad it is working out the way it is.
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