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Decca cartridge experiences

I really don't expect any response to this as the issue of Deccas, and all the controversies they stirred up is now passé, but does anyone out there own and use a Decca, and if so, did you find a tonearm which will accomodate it? I'd appreciate it if anyone shared their experiences with it, good or bad. I've found two tonearms in which it will work well: one a Mayware tonearm in which it works superbly, and one a Maplenoll air-bearing 'table with fluid damping trough, but I'm having a bit of trouble getting this combo to work again (I've only recently re-acquired the Maplenoll)...I'll have to fiddle with viscosity, amount of fluid and so on.

To all those who haven't had a chance to hear this cartridge, and who like to experiment and have fun (and tear their hair out), then a Decca still has the most slam of any cartridge, and retrieves an incredible amount of detail from the groove. Though these days it no longer sells for pocket change (the Super Gold goes for $850, but there are cheaper models), it's still not in the stratosphere like so many others. It is dificlt to find a tonearm which will accomodate it as well.

I'd appreciate as well any experiences with the new versions, as I hear the new stylus profile makes it less difficult. I think the responses will be "0", but any cartridge which stirred up this much controversy (at least a while ago) is Good News, like the Shelter (which is far more accomodating, however)...Thank you for your attention, if any attention there is...
johnnantais
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topoxforddoc
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Andrewg,

thanks. I'm lucky to have Garrott Brothers rebuild from the 1980s. However, I also have an old Maroon, which could do with a rebuild at some point. Ideally a Garrott Brothers rebuild would have been great, but I gather that they are not particularly keen on rebuild or retips of any carts now, preferring to sell their new carts instead.
tbg
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The Garrott Brothers are dead. Perhaps their company lacks the expertise to re-tip cartridges.
johnnantais OP
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"London" still offers a re-build/restore service, and apparently their new stylus profiles are more user-friendly. One of these days, I'm going to send in my bitchin' Super Gold for one of these new tips, as that van den Hul stylus is a tracking nightmare on a Decca! I got an NOS 3-pin Decca FFss cartridge (spherical tip, blue body) and breifly listened to it, and it sounded every bit as detailed as my Super Gold on a brief test, and with NO tracking problems! I'm waiting to have time to re-do one of my tonearms for 3-pin hook-up to install it permanently, if I don't decide to sell it. Perhaps tomorrow! I'm actually becoming a convert to spherical tips, as the one on the Denon DL103 anyway sounds superbly detailed and tracks beautifully without problem, and of course the FFss as well on a very short audition. Anyway, I asked the question at the beginning of this thread: if anyone has one of the new London/Decca tips, does it truly track better than the older ones?
tbg
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Johnnantais, it is a very long term comparison, but in my experience the Decca Jubilee tracted better than did my London Deccas of 25 years ago. I think then I used it on the Formula 4 and Keith Monks arms. I do think that spherical tips are easier to select the VTA but ultimately less resolving.
drdna
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Johnnantais, I have been using the new Decca Jubilee and I have not had any substantial tracking problems. It tracks much better than many of the old cartridges I have and it is certainly no worse than any of those modern moving coils. I have a question about tonearms. A lot of people are looking at the Lenco L75 rebuilds in this group and I wondered what tonearm was preferred? I am using a Well Tempered now with very good results, and was considering transferring this to the Lenco L75, but the Decca International, the Origin Live Conqueror, and the Schroeder tonearm all seem like they might be good choices, although the DIY path always seems to produce the superior sound...
Any comments?
Adrian
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