Teres vs VPI, SME, Origin Live, etc.

Hi Doug: ***** "At the meet Lugnut attended the $2,400 Schroeder Two matched or beat a $3,900 Graham 2.2/IC-70. That was with a ZYX UNIverse on each arm, same table, same everything, we even tried two different preamps and some stepups. " *****

** " matched or beat.. " **, I think that this conclusion is a premature one, let me to explain it: first, the wires that use both tonearms are differents and each one had his own signature; second, I think that the effective mass of both tonearms is different too. If you combine these twoo issues with some other ones like: maybe the Two is a better match for the Teres than the Graham and maybe the ZYX mates better with the Two that with the Graham, then your conclusion is not really a conclusive one. Perhaps with the right cartridge your conclusion could be reverse, that the Graham beats the Two tonearm.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear Lugnut: ***** " At $10,000 the Lyra Olympos, single layer coil version cartridge was bettered by the Universe to these ears. " *****

For any one can give a conclusion like yours, we have to do the evaluation in the same conditions: each cartridge mated with the TT/tonearm combination which it had her best performance, other way any evaluation was a premature one and a faulty one with no value at all. Your conclusion tell us only that the ZYX mates better with the TERES/Two combo than the Lyra, that's all.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Hello sirspeedy,
Did you notice the whinking smiley at the end of that last line? No sarcasm intended.
I like to be called by my name as much as I like to call others by theirs, not their monikers. But that´s just me, your moniker wouldn´t keep me from communicating with you. I actually like it.
Developing a "buyers emotion" for more than just a tonearm will be easy if you come to the RMAF in Denver. I´ll be wearing a tag with my name on it, hehehe(couldn´t resist that one :-)

Cheers,

Frank

Raul,

We can split hairs as finely as lawyers if you wish but nonetheless I heard what I heard. I would buy the Schroder 2 over the Graham. It seems the only conclusive opinions are those that you have.

I did however forget that the Lyra had only about 50 hours on it while the ZYX was fully broken it. Also, the Schroder arms were all brand new while the Triplanar was fully broken in as was the Graham. The Schroder 2 that we listened to had a graphite arm wand and retailed for $2200, not the $2400 you priced it at.

Following your twisted logic will lead one to not have any acceptable opinions, ever. Of course, you must be right being Raul and I offer my sincerest apology.

Just imagine if Romy the Cat and Raul were both posting on the same thread!

I don't think I could wrap my brain around that thought!