D-Sonic vs Wyred vs ....

See my 03-17-14 post above.

Thank you Unsound, having listened to the W4S amps at RMAF 2013, I am unable to even remotely associate "smoother, richer, much better treble, more refined" with what I heard.

The photo's at RMAF of the Wyred 4 Sound setup at the Marriott last October with the Emerald Physics speakers does not look very ideal and its a crap shoot with Class D amps at a high end show since they are more a.c. wall dependent using the outlet as a capacitor bank than a conventional A/AB amp which is why Class D amps will only perform best in your home with a true, straight line dedicated 20 or 30 amp a.c. outlet. During the past fifteen months I've read many post's on threads on a variety of high end sites of philes who own the Mamp from Wyred and they all come away with very similar opinions that its a very rich, warm, organic, smooth sound with a very liquid midrange. The Mamp and the new Wyred ST-500 MKII and the ST-1000 MKII all use the B&O ASX 250-2 amp. This is the exact same power amp that's in Bel Canto's REF 500M which is Bel's best sounding amp which is why it makes sense for Wyred to jump on this puppy and take advantage of it like Bel. Both John Stronczer at Bel and E.J. Sarmento at Wyred have done and excellent job with their extensive in house
upgrades to the input stage's of the ASX amps they are using
which is why the new models from Wyred should be taken very seriously based on the rave reactions to the Wyred Mamp and the Bel Canto REF 500M during the past several years.

Uhrn, unfortunately I have this poor habit of using my own ears before doing any raving... I wrote about Bel Canto REF500M based on ASX2... Good amp overall, but Bel Canto REF1000M (Mk.2) drives wide and fast musical circles around it.

I do appreciate the RMAF W4S room not being optimized... But what I heard there was beyond painful... The experience is not encouraging me to pursue the brand further than a yearly in-show check.

So Audiozen, have you listened to any of these amp thingies on your own at all?

G.

"But what I heard there was beyond painful"..spoken like a true politician. There are lots of other relevant ears out there who own Wyred that have opposite opinions that are very positive that I have read, and yes I have listened to class d amps over the years including owning a pair of Nuforce REF 9 MKII's in 2007.