Record Damage and Conical and Shibata Styluses


I have some interesting information for people to consider who have been having problems with crackly or clicky playback of their vinyl records.I have been looking at the U.S Patent for the original Shibata stylus profile.Here I quote fom the text "...When this(standard) elliptical stylus is placed in a record groove...the area of the above mentioned contact surface figure becomes small.For this reason,the elliptical stylus can easily bite into the groove walls(plus heat!)....the parts of the groove walls with small waveform undulations are particularly subject to severe damage,whereby the signal to noise ratio of the reproduced signals becomes small." should we all quickly change over to conical and shibata styluses?
stefanl
Stylus chatter within the goove wall can be caused by many things including stylus playback type and original cutter head geometry. Shibata also claimed that his stylus geometry would playback virgin vinyl that was untouched in previous play while using a elliptical stylus. I remember seeing and reading information for Shibata to prove this particular Point. AudioTechnica at one time had cartridges that had several replaceable stylus's ..I remember the Shibata type not being my favorite.Tom
Hi Tom, yes I have the same memory about Shibata as you do. That they never really took off, although I don't know why and never owned one. But I wondered if it might be that they were simply succeeded by the line contact type. I just can't remember the exact timeline anymore.
The patent was originally submitted on March 8 1972 and patented in November 27 1973.Now in talking to a Linn dealer from whom I purchased a Linn K18 Mark 2 cartridge second-hand,he stated quite unequivocally that this cartridge's profile was a Shibata and said he thought it's high-end was especially good.A lot of people also fondly remember this cartridge,one poster on Vinyl Asylum I think even stating that it was the best moving-magnet cartridge ever made.I have it on a second table and it outdoes a Denon 103,but that's not really broken-in.
Here is a summary of the abstract to the patent for the Shibata..the idea seems actually brilliantly simple.The Shibata stylus-"a contact surface contour of a shape which is short in the longitudinal direction of the groove and long in the depth direction"...."A portion of a conical stylus body is partitioned from the remainder of the structure by one or two planes inclined at a specific angle relative to a centerline axis passing through the vertex point of the conical stylus body"...".One or two cut faces made on the body"..."Suitable points on the two lateral sides at the lower part of the edge line part and parts in the vicinity thereof contact"-the opposed wall of a groove."These have a large radius of curvature."
Stefanl, that's very interesting (patented Nov. 1973) In an interview, A.J. van den Hul says that he began manufacturing the line contact styli in 1976, so it was only an interval of two or three years.