How to properly set VTF??



Hello there.

Just wondering which is the proper "placement" of the gauge to set the VTF for a cartridge. I use a digital gauge and normally fine tune by ear.

Method #1
Place VTF gauge directly on the turntable playing surface.

OR

Method #2
Place VTF gauge "outside" of the playing surface beyond the records edge.

I set the VTF at the recommended 1.96g using method #1. I then tried the #2 placement and the measurement read 2.14g for a difference of 0.18g

The only explanation I can think of that attributed to the weight difference is the anti-skate setting. On my arm (Tri-Planar) the anti-skate kicks in when the cartridge is on a playing surface, outside the playing surface the anti-skate is very minimal.

Which method do you think is best or is it arm dependent?

Cheers!
dogpile
Dear Sirspeedy: +++++ " ...about getting the best results!Now you seem to have a "glossed over" approach,and emphasize "just enjoy the music"!What gives?Have you finally gone over to digital? " +++++

Not yet. Btw, maybe you don't read what I posted or I can't explain about:

" If we want a better music/sound quality reproduction ( because is what I think we all wanted ) we have to " touch " every single link on the audio chain to a minimum frequency deviations, then the VTF/VTA-SRA issue means something to be nuts, not before. "

Regards and enjoy the music.
raul.
Sirspeedy, with all due respect, you sound like the accountant who wants to calculate average costs to +/- 0.5 cents because he/she (and the computer)can do division to 3 places after the decimal. One can't get more accuracy, nor need, than 1 cent out of 100 cents. So it is with VTF. Although the scale might show a figure to 0.01g, the measurement is not of that accuracy or reproducibility and thus not really more 'accurate' for the baseline start points to which you are referring than a simple 0.1g accurate gauge.
Having said that, there is no harm in continuing to use the 'higher' accuracy gauges, but much of the perceived 'finer' adjustments that you are making is simply 'chasing your tail' so to speak, that is making adjustments to compensate for the lack of repeatability of the 'finer' measurement.
respectfully, Bob P.
Bob P.
Bob,if you have any Mercury SR series "promo" pressings,or Decca wide bands lying around,I'd consider doing your taxes as a barter!How about it? -:)
Sorry, Sirspeedy, even if I had those recordings, I don't need your level of 'accuracy' in doing my taxes and wouldn't part with them! Would Mercury Wing recordings qualify, however?
Salut, Bob P.
Bob,NO,they are not accurate enough!Though I would consider some "Early Pressing " Oistrach LP's on EMI.Maybe his "encore" disc? -:)