great vinyl sound cost as much as great cd sound


Hi,

I have emmlabs dac and line preamp which is one of the best digital sources out there.

I was wondering if I wanted an analog vinyl source which rivals my digital system would it be equally costly.

At this point my vinyl budget would be limited to $2,500. Can I get a good phono preamp to connect to my line emmlabs preamp and a turntable for that amount and not find that my top of line cd source sounds far better.

If so what pairing of preamp phono and turntable would you recommend.

VPI scout and ? perhaps
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I guess Thom Yorke fans think alike:

I posed a similar question a while ago, and upsettingly I didn't get much help. Not having many albums, I really don't want to spend too much in total on the TT, arm, cart and phonostage.

I too wonder whether a VPI scout, JA Michell Tecnodec or Gyro (perhaps too much money) with a decent cart and a midrange phonostage will better the sonics of my emmlabs gear. Living in a smaller city, prevents me from getting to home audition some of these tables for an A-B comparison with my digital setup.

My TT thread

Perhaps, there may be a new Radiohead LP to play on my TT once I make a decision.

Does anyone have any direct experience comparing a Scout or Michell table to emmlabs gear ???
The Scout is a great TT and has an awesome upgrade path to the Super Scoutmaster, which is in the same league as your emmlabs stuff for vinyl. IMHO, I think you would be hard-pressed to spend only $2500.00 for TT,arm,cart, and Phono stage and get equal resolution as the emmlabs. I am willing to be proven wrong, and I hope someone else can recomend otherwise.
But I would persue the aquisition of the Scout, and start building an analog rig around it...upgrading pieces as finances allowed. You will not be disapointed with a good quality vinyl rig!
I just got into vinyl, and I'm very pleased. It's no question for me, given a record and a CD, the record will sound better. Period. I have the same recording on CD and on vinyl from Phillips, the record sounds better. Both formats have advantages and disadvantages, it's all about trade offs. But from an absolute sound perspective, records sound better.

I can't say I've heard the EMM gear, however, dont they convert PCM to SACD and then do the DA conversion? I think the new Teac Esoteric converts SACD into PCM and then does the DA converstion. Sounds like it can go both ways and be successful. I haven't bought into the SACD/DVD-A format so I really can't comment on sound quality here. Just an observation.

A record player will open a larger selection of music for you to choose from. If you get a clean record with a good recording, then the sound will be out of this world if you are use to CD sound. Give it a try so you can hear for yourself. My CD transport is rarely used these days.
I, too, own the EMM Labs CDSD & DCC2. I think you would spend $2500 on just the WIRE to hook up your vinyl rig- tonearm cable, interconnect for phono stage to DCC2, power cord for phono stage. The actual total cost to add vinyl playback is very high, if you include everything you need. From time to time I consider getting back into serious vinyl playback. To equal or better the EMM Labs combo in the analog realm would, IMHO, cost in excess of $30K at retail. Turntable- $10k, Phono Stage- $10k, Tonearm- $3K, Cartridge- $4k, Wire- $3k, Accessories- $1k. Of course, you can assemble a listenable vinyl rig for far less than $30k, but I think it would take $30k MINIMUM to beat the EMM Labs gear. I know several EMM Labs owners who have well in excess of $50k invested in their vinyl playback systems and, if the truth were to be known, probably listen to their digital more often. I ADORE great analog playback and definately PREFER SUPERLATIVE ANALOG to digital, but the high price of admission, the inherent inconsistancies of vinyl playback and- to a lesser degree- the software duplication and inconvenience (no remote control) keeps me from jumping back in.