Building high-end 'tables cheap at Home Despot II


“For those who want the moon but can't afford it or those who can afford it but like to have fun and work with their hands, I'm willing to give out a recipe for a true high-end 'table which is easy to do, and fun to make as sky's the limit on design/creativity! The cost of materials, including 'table, is roughly $200 (depending, more or less), and add to that a Rega tonearm. The results are astonishing. I'll even tell/show you how to make chipboard look like marble and fool and impress all your friends. If there's interest I'll get on with this project, if not, I'll just continue making them in my basement. The next one I make will have a Corian top and have a zebra stripe pattern! Fun! Any takers?”

The Lead in “Da Thread” as posted by Johnnantais - 2-01-04

Let the saga continue. Sail on, oh ships of Lenco!
mario_b
Ccryder,
Why not try disconnecting the ground from the motor plug, or better yet, switch it out to a 2 prong plug. It may be an easy fix, well worth a try.
Of all the Lencos I have, not one has 3 prongs.
Good Luck and keep us posted.
Hi Mike: to make Direct Coupling a success the wood-screws must be tightened just so, just like tuning an instrument. So I use several wood-screws and I do indeed use lock-washers (or rubber-sided washers) to go between the head of the screw and the Lenco top-plate. I tighten until the washer is snug and solid with no sign of movement (and solid enough that if I try to move it with a screwdriver it can't be moved), and no further. I also use bolts in the original bolt-holes as Lenco intended. Also, I have Direct Coupled Lencos both with and without nitrile rubber as a shim (there seems to be some variation in the height of the top-plate), and have found absolutely NO sonic or musical penalty, recipients of either of these types of rebuilt Lencos have been universally gobsmacked, and I use both myself and am myself gobsmacked (thank you Dr. Lenco!) at the speed, detail, high, lows, midrange, power, bass and incredible dynamics, in either iteration!!

Hi Chuck: the Decca is a hummy cartridge (like the Grados), no doubt about it. The hum you're experiencing is the Decca picking up the motor's electro-magnetic field. So far, the only way to wipe this type of hum out is to follow Mario's recipe of two sheets of mu-metal glued to the platter. Click on Mario's system to see how it is done. In my own system the Decca also hums (like the Grado), but at such a low level that it is inaudible when playing music and I am not motivated to do the mu-metal mod. Also, I'm used to this sort of thing, being a fan of both Grados and Deccas (both of which hum on most turntables to some extent), and so it simply doesn't bother me (like tube fans used to some level of tube roar). You could try grounding the Lenco motor itself and see what happens, and as usual try grounding the 'table and not the arm, vice versa, both together, motor alone, all together, and so on until you achieve the best level of silence, every system responds differently to these combinations.

Over here I took my Mr. Red (copyright Mike Green ;-)) on the Great Travelling Lenco Road Show to Toronto, where a manufacturer and distributor of high-end audio goodies heard it, and he and his associates were blown away (it turned into a mega session with hours of music, no one could tear themselves away), and now there's a good chance the Lenco will be used to more effectively demonstrate their wares at an upcoming audio show, and in their shop. I won't report further until things are certain, but at least the prospect is pretty exciting news!! In order to make the demonstration more effectively, I used a $200 cheapie high-output MC to show what it can do with one hand tied behind its back, my beloved Satin M-117 with removable stylus, mounted on my Morch UP-4. Vive la Idler-Wheel!!!
Oregon & Jean: thanks both. I will try both ideas and let you know. The power of this thread is so formidable that when I was fooling around yesterday (with my wife's help listening) she was the one that said "you should post the problem on your favorite thread."

Ladies and gentlemen, for my wife to reach this opinion, well let's just say we've penetrated well down into the masses!
Hi All,

First, let me offer apologies for “My System” which resembles the untidiness of a flophouse. Instead of coherent exposition, there resides jumbled teasers. Someday soon, I must pursue some tutorial help in getting it order. Anyway, Chuck got hold of me and now has the MuMetal/Lenco application recipe and I believe he’s going to pursue the fix – a fix that will utterly banish motor generated EMF hum.

Work continues on my automated record-cleaning machine. Already there have been departures from Jimmy Neutron’s machine. The plastic gear drive interface between the ice cream maker motor and the cleaning platter had too much slop in my design which translated into wobble. This called for the introduction of a 12” “Lazy Susan” bearing assembly for the platter to ride on. With 80 balls this is quite the rumbler! A neoprene-lined chamber within “plinth” will house the 3 hp DustDevil vac motor and have a fabricated mini-furnace filter to keep cleaning fluid off the motor (fused – just in case).

Looking forward to visiting Ottawa in ten days or so to hook up with Grant for a CD release (mastered by our very own - gjwAudio1 – aka Grant) party featuring Terry Gillespie and The Granary Blues Band. Weather permitting, my wife and I hope to pay a visit to one of Jean’s old Archeo haunts, Bon Echo Park.

And maybe, just maybe… another Lenco.

Hey Mike,

You’ll have to split those royalties with Mr. Red Green.

- Mario