Building high-end 'tables cheap at Home Despot II


“For those who want the moon but can't afford it or those who can afford it but like to have fun and work with their hands, I'm willing to give out a recipe for a true high-end 'table which is easy to do, and fun to make as sky's the limit on design/creativity! The cost of materials, including 'table, is roughly $200 (depending, more or less), and add to that a Rega tonearm. The results are astonishing. I'll even tell/show you how to make chipboard look like marble and fool and impress all your friends. If there's interest I'll get on with this project, if not, I'll just continue making them in my basement. The next one I make will have a Corian top and have a zebra stripe pattern! Fun! Any takers?”

The Lead in “Da Thread” as posted by Johnnantais - 2-01-04

Let the saga continue. Sail on, oh ships of Lenco!
mario_b
Hi Guys,
I haven't slept much the last few days trying to read everything on the net for the Amazing Lenco l75 and I am really getting excited about the future :) As I am patiently waitng my Lenco to arrive from Sweden ( I live in Bulgaria, no Lencos here) I have a few questions before I start with the restoration. I have read all the basic stuff and first steps that need to be taken but there are things that I am still not sure about. Please excuse me if I have missed the info, I just read a million pages and it's all a mess in my head.
So can anyone please say a few words or show a picture of the following:

1."Glass reinforcing" or "Glass epoxy mod" ?

2. Mumetal mod??

3.Just a few words again on "direct coupling", please?

Thanks in advance, I could never really express what a light this thread brought to my life,thanks a million for making me smile again,you people truly made it into History!
Hi David, I wish!! The whole thing, as written in the article, was Bob's idea, and for that I thank him deeply, as should you all, as an Ambassador/Product of Da Thread will be sent out for Official Recognition!! Celebrate!!! When Bob, who isn't afraid to tell it like it is and use big words like "Crush" and "Incredible" - and like you too David ;-) - if the facts support the word (i.e.; it is an accurate description of the reality, something which seems to escape so many who see the world through socially-imposed politically-correct lenses, and so don't like to make definitive statements), approached me and asked me if he could approach some magazines for a review, I wrote him to go ahead, kill himself doing it, that no one would touch me or the Lenco/Idler Movement with a 10-foot pole!

Imagine my surprise when I received - THE SAME DAY - not one but two e-mails, via Bob, one from Srajan Ebaen, the editor of 6moons, saying yes, and one from Jeff Day, an outspoken idler fan himself, who was looking forward to it and supportive. So, seeing that Srajan was based on Cyprus, that I try to travel every summer to the Mediterranean, that I had been involved in quite a few digital vs analogue dust-ups on Audiogon recently, I thought to - as always - put my money where my mouth was (Srajan has a VERY serious digital rig, coming in at something like $43K, so the Lenco has its work cut out for it), combine the Whole Enchilada and see what happened. Again I didn't expect success, and was amazed once again that not only was Srajan open to the experience/experiment/adventure, he was enthusiastic about it and day by day knocked down every single of my proposed objections/road-blocks!

I do believe Srajan, being an original thinker himself, is attracted to rebellious, questioning movements. He did the research himself, and so I had to try and make an effort too and at my end I contacted my contacts and had them relieve me of much of the expense: providing tonearm, cartridge and phono stage (and many thanks to them as well). But this will still be a very expensive venture, to ship, to build (I am having special metal feet made, having the metal parts bead-blasted and professionally re-coated in a very tough finish, developing a special plinth-building method, etc....this is for a high-end audio mag, no Canadian Rustics here!).

So I still don't know if it will happen: as should be clear to those who have followed my writings over the years, I value Travel well above Audio, and if it comes down to a choice between months of freedom doing my thing (also very expensive) and a review of the actual Lenco animal, then it's bye-bye review.

Those who have read the article will also have noted the Wyetech connection: to my surprise Roger Hebert, the brilliant mind behind the World-Class Wyetech electronics (and you haven't lived until you've heard a Lenco via his equipment...check out the several reviews of his equipment in various mags including TAS), catching news of the possible review on the Arctic Wind up here, came out and publicly announced his own Lenco conversion. Another who did not hesitate and instead trusted his hearing.

He heard one of my Lencos being demonstrated at a certain speaker manufacturer who was using Wyetech prototype top-of-the-line monoblocks to drive them (the combo, with the Lenco and ONLY with the Lenco, literally shook the concrete basement floor of the auditioning room) and was impressed. I soon received a phone call asking if I would bring my Lenco to his house for a demonstration? For reference, Roger uses big Zus, Coincident Total Victories, and a HUGE pair of limited-edition Tannoys (my favourites, though the other two are superb as well), and was using a VPI Aries with a Benz L2. Within one minute of hearing it, Roger turned to me and said "I want one". Still frightened of using the word "Crush" you timid fellows out there?

But Roger is a professional who produces impeccably finished and built electronics (works of engineering and visual art, truly, inside and out), and had to have a professionally-finished Lenco, and not the "dog's breakfast" that particular Lenco was :-) So, elated at the PR value of this latest conversion, I hired a cabinet-maker (and learned from him, very expensive lessons), and a lacquerer, and so began the making of the new plinths, which I owe to Roger for kicking my ass to take aesthetics more seriously, and teaching me some lessons as to Zen-like Perfectionism.

That same dog's-breakfast Lenco was also auditioned by Rob Fraboni, producer for Keith Richards and Bob Dylan among others, and he spent time listening to it via the prototype spoeaker/amp combo from various points in the room (the Lenco was VASTLY superior to the high-end digital source as the speaker manufacturer already knew, which was why I was asked to bring the Lenco for the demonstration for Fraboni). Though a digital man, he was interested enough to ask "Does it have to be this big?" Aesthetics is one thing, but ay, Performance is the thing!

Anyway, This Is It: the Lenco as it has developed on this Thread, and so its child, gets Official Recognition. I will be building it - assuming I AM building it and shipping it (a lot cheaper not to, it's a lot of beer and suntan lotion) - according to the Principles developed on the Home Despot Thread: Giant Direct-Coupled (pan married to the plinth) birch-ply/MDF (humble but most effective so far in my experience, and in tests superior to some quite more exotic recipes), Glass Re-Inforced (the pouring of high-grade marine-grade glass epoxy into the hollows of the Lenco top-plate to re-inforce and eliminate vibration/noise, pricey but worth it) Lenco L75. Of course the aesthetics will be expensive, but we have to send out a proper Ambassador from Da Thread/s do we not, and not a dog's breakfast ;-)?!?

Now, I had promised a while back that things were getting exciting, and now I think we're THERE :-). This is, I remind you all, cause for CELEBRATION (quit yer whining, you whiners out there), so go Ye out and do so however it is you do so!!! So one more time for the Gipper (whoever he is): Vive la Lenco, Vive la Idler-Wheel!!!
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Thanks for the short explanations of each, that was a gentleman act. Wish you all the best!
Exciting, Exciting EXCITING !! Lenco comes into the Light !!

Congratulations to ALL who have contributed in the Great Experiment, kicked off by Jean oh-so-many years ago ! We have learned many lessons together, through the community of Da Thread/Da Thread II.

I must personally thank Jean for being the Raving Lunatic he is... and for his unswerving conviction to what he believes in. When I stumbled onto Da Thread in early 2004, it seemed this guy was waaaay over the top in expressing the greatness of the idler-wheel drive, and the Lenco design in particular. Talk about blowing out huge gusts of hot air :-)

BUT... I kept reading with interest, and day by day the hyperbole sounded more and more credible. I went from A) highly suspicious of these outlandish claims, to B) questioning my own assumptions of "what's the best TT", to C) believing in the Gospel of The Lenco, to D) voting with my dollars, and acquiring an L75. Quite a leap of faith for a skeptical guy like me. This is the power of the Nantais Prose.

Today I'm thankful I didn't rush into a plinth rebuild... no, it's been the opposite ("Woe is me... Will I EVER get that thing running ?"). The reward for waiting: today, the Monster-Class design details are pretty much understood and
shared freely to all who will listen. Thank you Jean and thank you All, for developing these refinements to the basic "solid plinth" we began with.

A year ago I had the pleasure of sitting in front of Jean's system - my first chance to actually hear what the fuss was all about. The Man is Right. He does not exaggerate in his wild and wonderful descriptions of the portrayal of Music via the Lenco... I heard it for myself... and must concur and support his claims.

As if that audition was not enough, I was even more fortunate to accompany Jean and his Monster Lenco to the Wyetech Listening Room. My (audio) life will never be the same. We were treated to the most effortless, lifelike recreation of live music I have EVER witnessed. Tom Waits - Nighthawks at The Diner... not even a special Mo-Fi pressing, but Jean's bargain bin find.

THEY were not in the room with us... No, we were in the club with THEM. Completely magical... transported to the venue... transcending all the reviewer-cliches you've read a thousand times - there was no "hey listen to the top end sparkle", or "boy, the bass sure flaps your pants" - it was just a thrilling performance happening before us. Totally "natural" in dynamics, from muttered comments between songs, to the band roaring full-tilt. We just HAD to sit through both sides... yup, the complete album - it was that compelling. D'you ever do that with your audiobuddies, or is it the same 3 tracks from the same 3 records ?

Arrestingly, unspeakably impressive. Roger Herbert is one crafty designer... I didn't know electronics could get out of the way like his do, and let the music speak as though through that elusive "straight wire, with gain". Bravo !!

While I can only D R E A M of having all that world-class gear at my personal command, the good news is, the crucial front end source for this amazing lesson is The humble and Mighty Lenco. ("Hey, I'm making one of those right now...") And if it ain't in the source, you can't make it up further down stream.

Thanks again and again and again to the Lenco Brotherhood, for the gift of Knowledge & Friendship. I almost missed this group... it was a random search that dropped me into Da Thread - and curiosity in what the H*ll that Jean Guy was blathering on and on and on about - that made me stick long enough to be converted. Now I'm poised for Everlasting LP Happiness. My L75 project is underway, and with the benefit of all your collective experience, I'll steer clear of many pitfalls.

Three Cheers and Vive la Lenco, Vive la Idler-Wheel!!!
Grant
Well done Grant.
Thanks for sharing a familiar experience- surprise (at some guy ranting about a DIY $200 turntable. Entertainment and curiosity, went back to see more ranting, total skpticism, noticed some others in ranting mode, inquired about Nottinghams and Well Tempered tables only to hear that some were sold and replaced by the old Lenco??? Went back. Made contact with that crazy guy up north. Found him to be nothing but class and a real gentleman. Always willing to share with no strings.
Now, a true Lenco fanatic myself.
Thanks Jean! Keep on Truckin'