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Can you imagine a world without vinyl?

Can you imagine a world without vinyl?
I have been into vinyl for 49 years - since the age of 8 & cannot imagine a world without vinyl.
I started out buying 45's & graduated to 33's (what is now considered LP's).
I have seen 8 tracks come & go, still have a kazillion cassettes, reel to reel & digital cassettes - have both the best redbook player & SACD players available, but must listen to my "LP's" at least 2 hours a day.
I play CD's about 6 hours a day as background music while I'm working, but must get off my butt every now & then & "just listen to real music".
I admit to being a vinyl junkie - wih 7 turntables, 11 cartridges & 8 arms along with 35K albums & 15K 45's.
For all you guys who ask - Is vinyl worth it - the answer is yes!
Just play any CD, cassette, or digital tape with the same version on vinyl & see/hear for yourself.
May take more time & energy (care) to play, but worth it's weight in gold.
Like Mikey says "Try it, you'll like it!"
I love it!
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eldartford
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Zaikesman...."subjective audition testing done in this area?" That is exactly what I did with my Behringer DEQ2496. I noticed that the input signal level, displayed by a string of LEDs, never got even half way up, meaning that only the lower bits of the A/D were being used. Upon consideration this is not surprising since the DEQ2496 is professional gear, and expects line level signals to be higher than typical consumer electronics. I have introduced attenuation between the output of the DEC2496 and my power amps, and cranked up the preamp gain so that the peak level for a complete CD (detected and loged by the DEC2496) is 6 dB or less below cliping. Now I am utilizing all the bits I paid for. In my subjective opinion, it sounds better.
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shadorne
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Eldartford,

I noticed that the input signal level, displayed by a string of LEDs, never got even half way up, meaning that only the lower bits of the A/D were being used.

Now I am utilizing all the bits I paid for. In my subjective opinion, it sounds better.

It doesn't really matter according to Nika Aldrich. The dynamic range of playback music is far far less than 16 bits...so it is quite normal you only had half the lights on. Whether it is the top half or the lower half of the lights that light up it should really sound the same.

Check out "Digital Audio Explained" by Nika Aldrich...the last chapter has a list of common audio myths. Several of the myths would cause a storm here on audiogon so I won't mention what Nika claims ....but his book is highly respected (by folks like AKM who design/make these DAC/ADC chips) and worth reading, even if you disagree with his conclusions.
mcrheist
130 posts
 
Albert,

I was so sorry to hear you were not feeling well tonight with a stomach virus, and hope you have a speedy recovery. If I recall correctly, there has not been one Tuesday night gathering that you were unable to host through all these years. Am I correct in my memory recollection?

I must tell you that speaking with your son, John, was a privilege. He reminds me so much of you thirty years ago. I could have sworn I had been taken back to 1977 and that was AP on the phone, yet it was your son. It was an honor to speak with such an intelligent and caring human being. I felt an immediate friendship with him, just like I did with you back in 1977.

Please Get Well Soon! See you next week!
zaikesman
3,017 posts
 
Eldartford: Am I correct in thinking from your post that your CD sound is being output from the player in analog, then reconverted to digital and back again in the EQ?
eldartford
4,262 posts
 
Shadorne...How many bits you need depends on the size of the bits. Lets suppose that the analog signal dynamic range going in to the A/D is 0 to 1.5 volts. If I make each bit 0.5 volts I can cover the range (represent a 1.5 volt sine wave) with just three bits. (Sign and two bit magnitude).

0 1 1 ..... -1.5 volts
0 1 0 ..... -1.0 volts
0 0 1 ..... -0.5 volts
1 0 0 ..... +0.0 volts
1 0 1 ..... +0.5 volts
1 1 0 ..... +1.0 volts
1 1 1 ..... +1.5 volts

Obviously the resolution is terible! If I make each bit 0.05 volts the resolution will be better, but I will need a lot more bits.

Until you decide upon a particular bit scaling, and analog signal gain the dynamic range and number of bits are not related.
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