Dynavector XV1s loading & phono


Hi.

For those of you that have owned the XV1s, just curious as to what phono stage you are using with yours (or have used) and what loading you are putting on it to make it sound great!

I have got a XV1s at the moment, but with the Cary PH301mkII tube phono stage, have never got it to sound great. I was using the XV1s on LP12/Valhalla/Ittok II/rignmat anniversary. The default loading for MC on the Cary is 680 ohms. I modified it to make it about 150 ohms which did make a substatial improvment, however, sound was still very dull, undynamic, muffled, very unexciting.

I have heard the TeKaitorua (next model down) on a Oracle/smeIv setup going thorough a very modest solidstage phono/integrated setup and that gave extraordinary results! Likewise with the Lyra Titan, used through a solid stage Lyra Connosieur phono stage was absolutely amazing. Some people have replaced their Titan's with the XV1s! I don't think I'm hearing anything close to what the XV1s is capable of at all.

I think it is something with my front end analogue setup as my CD playback sounds spectacular, WAY better than the XV1s/Cary combo in every way. Since I have blamed the Cary for the poor match with the XV1s, I have since replaced the unit with the Kondo M7 phono - but as this is just a standard phono stage, I have had to revert back to my very modest MM Linn K18II cartridge. The Linn/Kondo setup is better than the XV1s/Cary in every respect - probably equal to that of CD playback in my system. To use the XV1s with the M7, will require step up transformers.

Question is:
1) What sort of loading are you guys out there using with the XV1s and on what phono? Tube or solidstate?
2) Is my deck/arm/PS combo the main cause of the poor sound from the vinyl?
3) What stepup transformers would one recommmend to match with the M7 - there is obviously the Kondo SFz ... any other worthy contenders?

Thanks a lot for all you guys help.

Regards
David
linnmaster
Dear Flyingred: +++++ " Raul please lay off your dogmatic opposition to step up transformers. We all know you have a vested (commercial) interest in your Essential design (which uses solid state for MC gain). " +++++

If you look to the links that I posted to Thom yo can read that the date of that SUT post was: 10-27-05 ., I'm talking about SUT's ( against its use ) by more than ten years from now ( a way very long very long time before the Essential ).



+++++ " I have heard Thom's system for something like 40 hours, and if the theoretical disadvantages of SUTs that you state are audible, they were not apparent in Thom's system. " +++++

I have heard too ( a month ago ), I reserve my opinion about for the moment.



+++++ " My view is that whatever phase anomalies are introduced by a SUT, they are orders of magnitude less than the phase havoc wreaked by the average speaker crossover. " +++++

Yes, I agree but that fact can't tell me that because of that I don't have to worry about other " small " and very critical distortions at the analog source chain: I have to and I do care about specially with the cartridge signal that goes through a phonolinepreamp, if I can I will try ( always ) to put at minimum all the distortions/noises at the source because after that we only could wait that that distortions/noises go higher. Maybe you can tolerate this but I absolutely NO!!!!!!

Yes, maybe I'm dogmatic about SUT's and the reason is because I take care and I care to achieve for me the best quality sound reproduction from analog/digital source and trying to put at minimum those terrible distortions/noises/frequency shift is one ( between others ) way to make it.

Flyingred, I respect your opinion but my advise ( till today ) to everyone is to stay away far away from SUT's. Now, I'm not the only one that thinks in this way: fortunately there are several designs that today don't use SUT's anymore, high gain active amplification in both sides: tube and SS designs and you and all of us have to be extremely happy that that " trend " design is already happening because is in favor of the MUSIC and in favor to improve the quality sound reproduction, good for that!!!!

I don't think that any music lover ( like you and me ) could be against that welcomed fact.

Regards and enjoy the music.

Raul.

Jcarr,it is post "material" like your previous one that causes me to realize how little I actually know,about the stuff I own.As well as stuff I respect,having heard ALOT.Technically,that is!!My ONLY resource of knowledge comes from the "practical" side of listening to,and playing with what I own,and hear at good friends' homes.Using material I am familiar with,in the form of some fine LP's(some cd's too,btw).
Much more can be learned by someone like myself,if guys like YOU could post more often.Of course,then,"novices" like me would be posting "alot" less.That surely would make some folks happy,and I'd have no problemo "READING" YOU" in my spare time.!Thanks for the great insight!-:)
Best!
Dear Thom: +++++ " we are making a connection, and this is what it's all about. " +++++

I agree with this because that's what I'm looking and that I already achieve but that I always will try to improve.

The difference between you/other people like you and me is that you are extremely tolerant ( distortions/noises/frequency shifts/etc ) with the sound reproduction and I don't.

When I attend to a classical concerto I'm very happy always and when some one ask me about the performance I speak of thw whole performance but I speak too of errors ( if were make it )in some small " stages " that I can't tolerate, unfortunately I can't do nothing about but I could make something about in the audio systems and certainly I do.

The difference too is that I prefer to be connected to the MUSIC with out distortion/noises and you prefer to stay connected with a lot of distortions and noises ( I hope this is not your dogma. ). The good news is that today you have several options to be connected ( enjoying it ) to the MUSIC with out those distortions and noises.

You know that I have a very high respect for you but this does not means that I can'T disagree with you and that I don't try to help any one that want/need help.

One question: two audio systems ( everything the same, not similar but the same and both extremely well set up. ) one with very low distortions/noises the other one with high distortions/noises: which one do you prefer? which one do you think has better quality sound reproduction? which one is truer to the recording? which one will be nearest to the live event?

Thom, nothing is perfect and different persons that looks for perfection could choose different approaches. I always looking for the perfect path to the MUSIC through my audio system and one way to be nearer to that path is lowering any kind of distortion/noise/frequency anomalies.

Maybe the time to come when you hear my system ( I already invited more than one time to do it and I make now again. Btw, everyone of you are welcome any time you can: seriously, it will be interesting for all of us ) you could understand my way of thinking.

Regards and enjoy the music.

Raul.
Jonathan,

You never fail to inject a voice of reason and perspective into any dialog you enter.

Thank you!
Thom @ Galibier
David

I have both a Linn/naim ARO/lingo and a VPI HRX. The HRX is better in every way to the Linn except for maybe some sweetness in the top end, as the HRX is more extended and that gives you the good and the bad.
The Linn is a luvely sounding TT, however you may want to upgrade the arm and definately the valhalla to a lingo or armageddon - whatever takes your fancy.
I believe that will get you closer in peformance to what you are expecting and it will support the XV-1 better as well.