Teres, redpoint or galibier turntable


I would like to upgrade my basis 2000 turntable.I am considering either upgrading to the basis 2200 table or trying one of the above three tables. I would also consider the new VPI aries three table. Which of the above would you recommend. I would like to keep the cost of the table only to 5000 dollars or less. Thanks for responding
gcj123
Dear Dan: Well IMHO the tonearm/cartridge link and the Phonolinepreamp link in the analog chain not only are a little more important links that the TT it self but I know by several experiences about that those links can give you a greater quality improvement than the TT change alone.

The Stltrains TT is a good one and changing it could give him a very small quality performance improvement than he goes other " road ".

Dear Stltrains, of course that you can put your money where you like but my point of view ( at least is what I almost always do ) is that we take/put our money where it " counts ". My advise about is for the better and in good shape but it is your play. You say that I'm almost obsesive about but till you try it with all respect you can say it for sure. If you ask I can give you a wide explanation of the importance of those links and why you must think on them if you want to really improve your qualite sound reproduction through your system.

Like one Agoner told me: " High end is what you are not what you buy. "

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Raul, I understand what you meant. I just can't help but tease you because you thing that Stltrains may need to "upgrade" his new Triplanar and relatively new ZYX Universe. I might agree with you about the phono stage but I'm not familiar with the Tom Evans Groove.

I think that what Stltrains is looking for in a table change is better speed control. I know he can get it from these tables mentioned in the subject. He may be able to get it with the new VPI rim drive accessory or maybe even with the new Teres Verus rim drive. But there are many other factors that could be improved over his current table should he choose to do so, IMO.
Hello Raul i upgraded my phono amp to a non transformer type due to your recommendation a good while back. Got a good deal on a Tom Evens Groove Plus and after having it a while had the SRX upgrade done. This alone was a huge step up from my 834p.

I thought i was happy using VPIs 10.5 unipivot arm until i got to talking to Mr. Mehran at Sora sound he gave me the opportunity to give Tri Planar a spin, again a serious upgrade indeed. Ditto on going from a DV 20xl to a ZYX UNIverse Xsbl.

Now on my Audio Horizons 2.1 nrb with Siemens CCA tubes all around i am not going to say it was a upgrade to my Nuforce P-9, i prefer 2.1s tube magic in a preamp with my system more than P-9. P-9 is a fine preamp.

I am into this hobby and passion because i love to listen to music. I mean that sincerely my wife is of the same fabric so on week nights when we come home from work we have dinner, and its Rock and Roll until. On weekends well you know.

You wont meet a person who is on a quest to achieve the best music reproduction at home than me. Of coarse money does come into play in that thought. I have been lucky enough to have super people like Mr Mehran, Ty Tyler, John Castler, and a few more who have treated me with there best in equipment and just plain good old friendship. And like i said above when you have to start over from scratch in not only a music system but everything else thats needed in life that friendship is treasured.

Thanks for your time and you to enjoy the music.
All,

No doubt this question will resurface in the coming months (heck! I'd be asking it if I were in your position), and those who think that Galibier should be run as a charity will surely give me no small amount of grief for the price increases - even though I've worked hard to hold the line on Gavias and Stelvios for some two years.

Last Friday (Feb. 1), I received a price quote for the raw PVC blanks which are transformed into Serac platters. Their price increased 69% since my last purchase, some 8 months ago. The stainless steel hardware used in turntable assembly reflected increases ranging from a 50% to 80% depending on the part.

I'm working on quantifying aluminum pricing which has historically has been as volatile as soybean futures, while steadily trending upward over the past 4 years. I've been advised by my machinist to expect similar sticker shock for raw aluminum and stainless.

I have no doubts that these increases will affect demand, but given the challenges I've faced in meeting my delivery schedule over the past year, this isn't necessarily a bad thing for those who order. I hate keeping people waiting as much as the fellow on the other side of the transaction hates to wait.

Some manufacturers might feel secure in having a two plus year order backlog, but I consider my speed of delivery over the past year to be my one failing. I'm working on it, but at the same time, the last thing I want to do is to set false expectations.

Cheers,
Thom
Dear Stltrains: I totally understand your point and you already know what I'm talking about and the importance on the subject: you expierence it when you change and up-grade your phono stage and when you change your tonearm, I'm not saying nothing different it is only that IMHO you still can do more through the tonearm/cartridge link or phonolinepreamp that with your TT " road ", that's all.

Anyway, you will make what you think is better for you and the important opinion about it is not the mine but yours because is you who have to live with the audio system everyday, specially on week ends!!!

I like the audio forums ( specially the Agon one ) because all them give us the opportunity to think on subjects that for one reason or another never we imagine that were important, those audio forums help me too to confirm my findings/set-up and to analyze my system from a different point of view and all these facts is what permit that every one of us can/could grow-up on our beloved music " hobby ".

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.