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No one has any obligation to respect another's point of view, just an absolute obligation to respect another's RIGHT to hold a such a point of view.

This is the great pitfall of 'politcal correctness.'
Political correctness be damned, Constitutional correctness is what matters. PC weakens the First Amendment, by blindly validating the substance of opinions, and forcing the censoring of dissenting view.

Having said that, Makersmark, can you point me towards some reviews of thsi d/io thingie? I am curious.

KP

Killerpiglet I wholeheartedly agree with you. Everyone does have the right to express their opinion. Anyone can totally disagree with opinions expressed by others. I don't think I said that by allowing someone to express their opinion you blindly validate it. If you disagree with someone simply state your opinion. Just don't resort to childish namecalling and personal attacks. There is no need to try to hurt someone just because they have a different opinion than you have.
People this is just stereo equipment we're talking about. It's used for entertainment. You know to have fun. Entertain. Loosen up, take a perspective pill.
Actually maxgain I was gonna say $50; because that is all I would pay for a CD player. Maybe if killerpiglet could tell me more about the d/io thingie I might consider spending more. Chill my bruthers. It's all good.

Hey Killer, interesting Poly Sci thing you got goin' there, I myself see this place as more the Hobbsian "state of nature" sort of thing. It's lawless and leans tword anarcy. Kill or be killed.
The very anononimity here leads to people to try to be something they aren't. Some her know what the hell they are talking about. Some here want to be "athority" figures.Some are just misfits and malcontents,while still others want to impress us with their flowery "ivory tower" verbosity. ok. It's as if they can have some sort of vicarious life here as the audio superhero defending us against all of these god awful products. It's just if you say something that you know full well is loaded you better expect someone to call you on it and don't whine if someone roughs you up a bit for it. You asked for it. I got fired from a job because of the first Sony CD player. I hated those things for years. I didn't buy a player until 3 years ago. But I kept an open mind.I found one I love. But I am sure Makersmark you have herd it and found it to be of no value. I must not have had my hearing aids turned on. Once again here is another example of condeming "all" of a class of product.(my peve if you haven't guessed by now) So Makersmark you have listened and carefuly considered the performance first hand under controlled conditions of every CD player costing over $75. Wow you are my audio Green Lantern. Sorry to offend you but the statement you made is foolish at best. I play rough with the slow kids sometimes but it is for their own good. Tough love, Right? And buy the way get yourself some 15 year old Rip Van Winkel bourbon and give it a try, you might enjoy it. I like it best but I don't say "all" other bourbons are worthy of "shame" when I have not tried them "all".

Makersmark, my error, I though you had info on the thingie in question. After further review... I see you and I share the same curiosity!

My request for information, then, is more properly directed at Sedond.

Oh, and I did not mean to imply that by allowing others to express themselves you validate their opinion! There is no greater freedom in life than free expresion! Without this right, all other rights become meaningless.

KP

makersmark & killerpiggie, twas *i* who mentioned the art d/io (yup, that's "io", not "10" - it stands for in-out, as the device is actually an adc as well as dac.) as a matter of fact, i even posted a thread about it, where more info can be had:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ymisc&1011197293&openfrom&15&4#15

also, do a search on the forums here for dio, or d/io. also search the audio asylum's digital forum for *lotsa* information...as a matter of fact, i ordered my d/io after reading *this* thread:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ddgtl&1003098758&openfrom&2&4#2

regards to all, even those who are *wrong*! ;~)

doug s.

btw, my personal belief is that any decent $300 cd player will offer 95% of the best redbook cd has to offer, from what i think is basically a flawed medium - i'm w/ya on this, makersmark, really! :>) that said, i also believe a modded art di/o will get ya at least to 99.5% - why spend more? :>) for the 1st time, i can actually really enjoy redbook cd playback. but, i think a tubed preamp (or amp?) is really a requisite to make cd's listenable...