How good is the phono stage of the VAC sig.II pre-

I've heard this phonostage((in pre)and was lucky to compare to the VTL,and Zanden seperate units...

IMO,the VAC was absolutely(and surprisingly)"easily" competitive to the other fine units.Others present felt the same way.

One small advantage of a "high quality" built in phonostage is the extra set of cables,and connections are eliminated.
Good luck

When done right,a built in phonostage can be superior due to the lack of external connections and shorter connection paths. I would order the unit with the phonostage and you could certainly compare it to external ones. I think you will find it to be extremely good.

Jonathan

Dan ed makes a good point about saving the tubes, when
listening to your digital source. Gee, never thought of
that one when I bought my FF Preamp. I would think if the
phono section is that good though, your digital source will
not be your primary one. The points JTinn and Sirspeedy make
with regard to the shorter signal paths, less connections... are excellent. I heard the Vac Ren Sig 2 w/ digital and phono recently, and was greatly impressed. This was in an extremely revealing system. I have not been in the market for a while, so take this with a grain of salt, but the elite phono units are around 5K +. Add a good IC on that, and you would clearly be spending more than the Ren Sig 2 w/ phono.

It depends. I've got a Ren Mk2 (not Sig) which I used with the a ZYX Airy2 0.24 mv. The built-in phono w/step ups IS very good but it does not have adjustable loading. If your LO cart is sensitive to loading, you might not be getting the best out of it. I found the ZYX headamp into the MM phono was a little better; very very good, IMO. Held its own with a Doshi full function pre. Then I traded it in for the ZYX Artisan full phono stage, which I found to be remarkable. Just lets the music flow, good definition and thunderous bass. Neither has adjustable loading either, so I would recommend trying it with the specific cart you are going to use if you do not have a ZYX. As far as cost goes, an Artisan is about that same # you are talking about, maybe a little less but you will need cables.

I wouldn't own a phono stage or preamplifier without adjustable loading.

One size never fits all.

Sounding good and sounding optimally are entirely different.