Which part reduces surface noise most?


Hi all -

I have been lucky enough to hear a few turntable setups that put surface noise/cracks and pops "on another plane", which makes focusing on the music so much easier. These tables have included:

Well-Tempered w/ unk Audio Technica Cart and modified Dyna PAS 3 preamp
Linn LP12 with various Benz Micro cartridges and Audio Research phono stage
Kuzma Stabi with Cardas Heart (Modded Benz Ruby) cart /BAT phono stage

However, I've yet to recreate this phenomenon at my home. Granted, I've never spent the kind of money required to buy the 'tables listed above, but I'm wondering where the next upgrade step is for me.

I currently have a Techncis 1210 with Cardas wiring and the KAB fluid damper with an Ortofon 2m Blue cart playing through a NAD 304 integrated. The sound is pretty good, but the crackles and pops still really bother me.

In your experience, is it a function of the the stylus profile, the phono stage, low-output vs high-output, mc vs mm, or any combination of the aforementioned that will help me in my quest to separate the noise from the music?

Any input will be most appreciated, thanks!
128x128joelv
I would also do a direct comparison of your records played on the other decks you mentioned, it may give you some more specifics to work from.
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Raul - The holistic approach to audio enjoyment is a great one.
I am definitely tightly focused on this one aspect, but as I can't afford to upgrade the amplification yet (NAIM or tubes), I choose to focus on the source.

Headsnappin - Your idea is a great one, but I am now located too far away from any of the aforementioned faves for that to be practical.
Joelv,

As Raul said, every part of the reproduction chain can help reduce surface noise and remove it to some other plane (perfect description - I know exactly what you mean by that). Some of the most significant factors include:

Record cleaning - Disc Doctor fluids leave much to be desired IME. You'll get a notable reduction in hard clicks and pops with an enzyme based system like AIVS or Walker Prelude. Highly recommend you make that switch.

Stylus profile (already noted by Tvad) - in addition to running quieter, a micro-ridge stylus massively reduces inner groove distortion and makes a big improvement in the clarity of high frequencies.

Arm/cart matching - as noted by Raul.

TT quality - particularly the platter. In this area there's nothing better IME than a well damped, high mass platter.

Phono stage quality - no one has mentioned this yet but it's the BIGGEST FACTOR OF ALL. The componentry in most entry level phono stages is easily driven into ringing, overload and distortion by transients with very fast rise times and large peak amplitudes (e.g., from the stylus whacking a chunk of dirt in the groove). Top class phono stages have higher quality components and more stable power supplies, which lets them reproduce the size and shape of the dirt accurately, with less of the exaggeration that makes such noises so noticeable.

It's a long, difficult and (unfortunately) sometimes expensive path to reach the kind of "distancing" of noise that you mentioned. And it's pretty much guaranteed that without a good quality phono stage you will never achieve that.

Doug
Doug, excellent points especially about the phono amp ;).

A small question aside: On the topic of fluid, which AIVS do you recommend? The Super Cleaner (with Alcohol) or the Archivist solution without alcohol? I just ordered some AIVS (both types) to try this out for myself and compare to DD and RRL.

Thanks,

Rene