Doug Decan I think there is a new ZYX 4D cartridge

Hi Jwm,

As Mark says, the 4D is the Atmos rebadged for non-USA markets. The two models are identical, though I've seen European dealers claim otherwise.

Performance vs. the UNIverse? A search here will turn up a UNIverse owner who tried the Atmos/4D and went back to the UNIverse. Also, read the reviews next to my signature, which were the first ever written for either cartridge.

The Atmos/4D is a great cartridge that outplays all but a few competitors - but it does not outplay the UNIverse. Non-USA dealers have an incentive to say that because they can't sell you a UNIverse.

As to timing, a properly set up UNIverse will outplay every cartridge I've heard in this respect, including the Atmos.

Hope that helps,
Doug

There are a number of top flight cartridges that will meet or exceed the Universe in this regard IMO having owned two of them.

However, you buy and listen to that which pleases your personal budget and preferences.

And the only opinion that matters is your own.

Dealer disclosures?

Bill,

You didn't address the 4D question, but thanks for clarifying that "the best I've heard" means "in my experience, budget, preferences and opinion".

I doubt Jwm could have worked that out, perhaps he'll thank you separately.

I did not mention any brand and/or model.

Had I done so, a disclosure would have been included.

Nice try.