Joule phono stage/ Enough gain for .2mv cartridge


Wondering if anyone knows if the LA-150P would have enough gain for Koetsu Jade. Has anyone had success with the Joule phono stage running any cartridge with this low of an output. FWIW, I believe the Jade is speced at .25mv
fjn04
Dear Fjn04: +++++ " Yes it would " +++++

IMHO this kind of answer does not put things on the right/responsible perspective specially with that Jade cartridge.
Please read how the Joule works with a low output cartridge like the Dyna Te Kitora that has a similar Jade output level:

+++++ " I suspected that the lower output of the Te Kaitora was delving into uncomfortable gain territory for the OPS-2 Mk V.

I shot off an e-mail to Jud Barber and asked for his opinion on the matter. He commented that the lowest-output cartridge he had personally used with the OPS-2 Mk V was a .4mV Cardas Heart, and that a .25mV output cartridge may well not be enough for the OPS-2 Mk V to handle comfortably. My experience concurs -- consider a minimum of .33mV output if you want to hear the OPS-2 Mk V (and your LPs) at their best. While the difference between these output levels may seem trivial, consider that the .33mV output is nearly 25% higher than the .25mV output. And at this signal level, thatÂ’s significant. " +++++

This high-light comes from a Soundstage review on the Joule phono stage that is similar in your LA-150P. I have to say that the reviewer was using a line stage that has/had more gain that the line stage on your Joule unit.

I think that that Koetsu cartridge can be better " serve " for a different device than the Joule one.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Thanks for that info Raul. FWIW, I do not own the LA-150II, but have been considering trying it. I am trying to gather canditates in the 8-12K range which will have the gain for .25mv cartridges. I am thinking tube, with the flexibility of adjustable loading. I know there are a few units that also allow the bypassing of the built in transformers. The EAR units come to mind first. Granted, I may not find a unit that will have enough gain without using the transformer. However, that option will be there in case I ad or move to, say a .4 or .5 mv cartridge.

I think you would be very happy with the Art Audio Reference Phono stage. Joe Fratus can make you a custom one at no up charge that would work well. A really fine unit.I have used the older LAP-150 with a Dynavector low output cartridge, but it has been a while.
sounds real is an Art Audio dealer which should have been disclosed.

But it never is in this and other threads.