Are our 'test' records adequate?


Most of us have some favourite records with which to check the health of our systems, or to assess a new component within our systems.
These records are often carried with us whenever we wish to assess a completely foreign system in a different environment. I have my favourite ‘test’ records, some of which I continue to use even after 30 years. I know them (or parts of them), so intimately that I feel confident in my ability to assess a component or complete system after just one listen.
I know other audiophiles who have specialised their ‘test’ records to such an extent that they have different discs to evaluate for Voice, Bass, Large Orchestral, Chamber, Piano, Strings, Drums, Jazz, Rock.
Almost invariably, these vinyl discs are superbly recorded and sound stunning, not just on very fine systems, but also on average systems.
Of course, because each of us knows his own discs so intimately, it is possible to assess the 'omissions'in a foreign system by memory, often to the puzzlement of those to whom the discs are not so well known and to whom the sound had been thoroughly satisfying and impressive?
But I have begun to wonder recently, if this is in fact the most reliable method of evaluating components and systems?
I am sure most of us have heard records on our systems which are almost unlistenable or certainly unpleasant and we have simply placed these discs in the 'never to played' shelf of our storage unit?
But perhaps some of these records might be more revealing than our fabulously recorded 'test' material?
For some time I have been disturbed by two records in my collection, which despite their fame, have sounded poorly (in various parts) despite improvements to my turntable, speakers, amplifiers and cartridges.

Harvest by Neil Young on Reprise (7599-27239-1) has some nicely recorded tracks (Out On The Weekend, Harvest, Heart Of Gold) as well as 2 tracks (Alabama, Words), which have confounded me with their leaness, lack of real bass, vocal distortion and complete lack of depth. The album was recorded at four different venues with three different Producers and those two tracks share the same Producers and venues.
After mounting a Continuum Copperhead arm as well as a DaVinci 12" Grandezza on my Raven AC-3 and carefully setting arm/cartridge geometries with the supplied Wally Tractor and Feikert disc protractor, I was actually able to listen to these tracks without flinching, and could now clearly ascertain the 'out-of-key' harmonies of Stephen Stills together with the clearly over-dubbed lead guitar boosted above the general sound level on the right channel and the completely flat soundstage.

Respighi Pines of Rome (Reiner on the Classic Records re-issue of the RCA LSC-2436) had always brought my wife storming down the hallway at the 'screeching' Finale whilst I scrambled for the volume control to save my bleeding ears.
Again with the two stellar arms and strict geometry, the 117 musicians could not hide the shrill, thin and overloaded recording levels of the horns (particularly the trumpets).
But the wife stayed away and my volume level remained unchanged.

My wonderfully recorded 'test' records had sounded just fine with my previous Hadcock arm but it's only now, when two 'horror' discs can be appreciated, that I truly believe my system 'sings'.
Perhaps we could re-listen to some 'horror' discs in our collection and, with some adjustments to our set-up, make them, if not enjoyable, at least listenable?
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"How in the world does one know how to assess a system accurately?"
That is precisely the intention of my initial post Jdaniel.
At what point do we say......."This recording is poor, sounds awful on my system and I never want to play it again?"
That 'point' can only be, when we are self-confident enough in our own system's ability to eliminate distortions throughout the chain.
I was physically unable to sit and listen to the finale of the Reiner 'Pines' even with my Raven AC-3, Copperhead/DV1s, DaVinci 12" Grandezza/ZYX Universe until I had eliminated the micro distortions created by tiny errors of cartridge/arm geometry.
If you are able to physically listen to that finale on your system at high listening levels, I'd say your system was doing well.
As for the question on assessing a system accurately?.... playing those 'difficult' records will objectively tell you if something is wrong whilst listening to the 'great-sounding' discs may not?
"As for the question on assessing a system accurately?.... playing those 'difficult' records will objectively tell you if something is wrong whilst listening to the 'great-sounding' discs may not?"

The cosmic issue is how to determine at what point "difficult" might mean flawed to begin with; moreover, "great-sounding" doesn't always mean that the grooves aren't demanding. It makes it really hard to judge a system's performance, though I admit reviews and reports from people like yourself certainly give a me some excellent and much-desired perspective.

I have one anecdote: I picked up a beautiful copy of Munch's Berlioz Requiem on Shaded Dog Lp's which (seemingly) gave my system (scoutmaster/dyna 20xl) fits during some Soprano lines in the first track. I futzed with the alignment for days with no luck. I stumbled upon a Reel to Reel machine, picked up the same Requiem on R2R and was shocked to hear the exact same distortion on the tape in the exact same places. All that work and worry, and the grooves (and my cart) were simply relaying a flaw in the recording!

(For those who like Bruno Walter's stereo Indian Summer on Columbia, but cringe over the Lp sound on occasion, I can sadly report that the R2R counterparts sound exactly the same.)

For those with high-end systems, I would love some of you to compile lists of Lp's that you've never gotten to sound "right." It would save us "mortals" a lot of time wondering if it's the record or our systems.
That's a great idea Jdaniel!
I too would like to compare records which have challenged other systems.
I feel many audiophiles though, may be reticent to share these for fear of admitting (or exposing) a weakness in their systems?
I hope I'm wrong, for like you, I believe there are many discs out there produced from Master Tapes which have recording faults buried in them.
It would be nice to be forewarned?
i'll try to clarify...you go from store to store with neil young's harvest lp as a method of auditioning. at each location you find different qualities that strike you as positive or negative. without access to an 'immediate' a/b comparison, its impossible to hold the 'sound of each' product in your head, or compare it to what you have at home. the physical appearance of each speaker, and your 'built in' beliefs(your 'code')so to speak, play the largest role in your decision making, rendering your test or reference records helpless. its not a coincidence that the friendliest companies at trade shows get the highest marks for 'sound' at consumer or tradeshows either.