Who has heard the new ARC ref 2 phono?

Did you also notice that a new Ref 5 linestage is in the works as well? Didn't Ref 3 just came out like not that long ago?

I took a look at the Ref 2 phono specs and was really excited as it has everything that I am looking for in a phonostage. (except the price tag)

But a friend pointed out that Viktor from BAT is not a big fan of using 6H30 supertube in a phono section. And if anyone can speak about 6H30 supertube with authority, I would think it would be Viktor.

FrankC

Ref 3 was launched in 2004.

Downunder, What don't you like about the 6H30 "sound"? I like to think that circuit design trumps the choice of tubes in creating the sonic character of a piece, but I must admit there are tubes I do not "like" based on my own DIY efforts and listening, e.g., the 12AU7 and often the 6SL7. Yet these are tried and true warhorses, and I am sure they can be made to sound great in the right setting.

What's the problem with the 6H30 in a phono stage? Something inherent in the tube design?

Hi Gpgr4blu
I'm not a circuit design guy, but the 6H30 (and I heard it in earlier BATs) sounded very 'jumped up' too 'hot' it lacks fluidity and the only way to 'tame' this behaviour apparently is by the use of shunt regulation. I think 2nd generation BAT and ARC do this when using the 6H30s now, It is very 'fast' and 'clean' sounding in the correct circuit designed for it.
Axel