Graham Phantom vs. Phantom II

>>10-21-09: R_f_sayles
.....My concern and my understanding of Conrad Mas's concern with unipivot arms on his table is that his clever suspension is also essentially, unipivot, which together create some basic engineering challenges, and very possibly a poor result in combination with a basic unipivot tonearm......<<

Does Mas consider his suspension unipivot?
I thought it was fairly conventional 3 point spring setup with lateral stabilising rubber bands. Not sure what makes this suspension 'unipivot' - or for that matter incompatible with a unipivot tonearm.
In any case if Mas considers unipivots don't work (for whatever reason), why not just go with one of the other excellent arms available - eg Triplanar or Kuzma 4point?
I'm a Phantom owner but I'm pretty sure I'd be happy with either those other 2 arms.

Well, when I would be a Dealer I would write the same.
And when I would be a customer, who has money but no idea, I would agree.
Most Audiophiles WANT to spend money, they don't want to KNOW what the unit really does. They "like" it or not. Or. they read something in a magazine and save a few lines in their memory and after a while it is transformed to "Knowledge".
But to be fair, only new products makes the money go round. And when something is really better (or clever made) than others, and cheaper, and limited...then it can be dangerous. The goal is the "Balance".
It is the way it is.

It appears that we have a "clever" audiophile in our midst. You are so transcendent in your thought...

Oh sage please,through a few pearls of wisdom to the swine that surround you, i want to "KNOW" the secrets that i have been denying for so long as i through my fortunes to the wind...Just kidding, of course!

So many words, but nothing is said,

tell us, what makes your words any more credible, or better yet, what makes your judgement/knowledge any more credible than "most audiophiles" or "dealers" that you condescend to.
So far it has remained unseen.

One who chooses to confront his fellow music lover hiding behind oblique comments and explaining them all as the unwashed masses, rarely does any good except to feed his own ego. We have a word for that on these threads, it's called a troll.

i prefer the honesty of sharing and helping my Hifi friends, and on occasion showing my ignorance.

Happy Listening! Come in here dear boy, have a cigar, your going to go far...

And when I would be a customer, who has money but no idea, I would agree.

I think a read of Syntax's System would reveal the veracity of this statement?

But to be fair, only new products makes the money go round.

Are we not talking about the NEW Phantom compared the OLD Phantom?
Methinks his confusion overwhelms him?

What make Syntax' comments more worthwhile and valuable than most (.... not all...) others?

First he has absolutely no financial interests in promoting either component and has tried most in discussion here in his home system.
Furthermore - as I do know him quite well and will visit him again tomorrow - he tries to make as little compromise as possible and does judge any component (and through his hands and system went a hell of a lot of components with really serious price tags the past years...) by its performance only and not by hype, fellowship or price tag.

Honestly - this alone is rarely seen.

Add to this an open mind which includes and shows some affection for logical chains, conclusions and enough stamina to make a stand against any crowd.

On the negative side he has quite a vein for teasing lesser minds and making harsh statements.
And he has some friends around which are even worse .......... one being me.

But then - no one of us is really perfect..........

BTW - Syntax is certainly no Troll. I have seen 2 Trolls in 1986 in the very northern part of Finlandia (close to Kilpisjärvi - permafrost area). They do behave different....

Maybe it would be a bit smarter to take some of Syntax's comments more serious and not seeing an instant insult in any of his posts.
He is much more serious than most of you imagine.