Graham Phantom vs. Phantom II

Hi,
following this thread with its Brucknerian fortissimos – and ~pianissimos, I find it interesting to read about the "darkness" of the SME V arm --- once again.

It seems to underscore the point made by Downunder about 'arm / table synergies.

Using a SME V on my SME 10 'table, leaves not the smallest of notions about darkness! --- so that 'table may just be a 'lean' lady? (It looks the part, yes)

In turn it would suggest that a Phantom be too 'light and breathy' on an SME 10 (similarly open in plinth design to the AVID)?
However, Graham has a nice and ready fit for those SME arm board connections. Perhaps an indication that there is a demand for the more beefy SME 20 and 30 models?

Greetings,
Axel

Axel, Your point is well taken, the lady may be teaching me something by contrast, if I understand you correctly. Synergy is a demanding mistress my friend! And this is why we need an open forum like AudioGon. There is no way I (we) could get this kind of sharing of ideas and viewpoints in our limited circles. I have the good fortune of being part of a one hundred, fifty plus membership in a local audiophile group called SMAC Southeastern Michigan Audio Club and many of our members are part of the Audio Karma Festival each year in our area and yet, the input by this thread has given me new insight about my SME V and the Phantom II from all of your observations.

Happy Listening!

Dear Axel, I am very familiar with the SME V since its introduction more than a quarter of a century ago.
The SME V is not dark.
It is something else. I would rather describe its sonic signature as slightly forward upper bass (due to a resonance in its magnesium armpipe I suppose...).
The sonic side-effect is, that in all set-ups I have heard this tonearm and with all cartridges the sonic performance gives the impression, that the ceiling of the room seems to hand low.......
This may be named "dark" in some ears, but I would rather describe its sonic signature as mentioned.

Agree with DT, but the SME V can be tuned:
Silver cable inside (Silver carries 6% more information than everything else, Graham uses Silver cables for years btw.)
When you can do some work at the Base, the V reacts quite sensitive to it.
Bottom: lead-bloc (or similar)
Middle: Acrylic (just to try)
Top: SME Base

Don't work at the screws or the bridge...

Most SME V I know do already have v.d.Hul silver wiring inside. The top frequencies are more detailed and the sound gets a bit more open.
Blue Tec on the armpipe - especially at the pipe's widening - is another great tweak.
But the ceiling remains hanging too low....... no matter what you do.