Oh, crap.


I just wanted to tell y'all about my fun by posting this edited letter to my CC company. Any advice from you business and lawyer types would be much appreciated.

Dear Sir,

I would appreciate your help in getting my money back from an order I made to a dealer on 25 July 2001. The item ordered was a turntable, and I was told by the manager that it would arrive at his store in three to four weeks. He was then to ship it to me. Four weeks after July 25th I called the store to see what the status was on the turntable. A lady who later identified herself as the bookkeeper answered my call and told me she would contact the distributor and then would call me back to let me know when it was due to arrive. She never called me back. I do not remember exactly how long I waited before I called back, around a week I am sure, asking about the status of my turntable. Same reply from her, and she never called me back. I was planning to call again, but September 11th came. Since there was no shipping going on, especially overseas, and since I would have felt very small to complain about my turntable at this time.

Around the 20th –25th or so, I called the distributor, hoping for some help in getting the turntable. I do not remember what the person who answered said, but she did not give me a date or anything. She contacted the dealer to tell them about my call, and the manager then calls me and tells me that an employee of his did not turn in the order to the distributor. The manager then ordered the turntable, and I verified this with a phone call to the distributor. Well, at least they said the has my model on order. So I waited another month, now late October/ early November, before phoning the dealer, and the manager explains to me that they are back ordered, and that the particular one that I want is produced in very limited quantities anyways. A couple of weeks, and I call again. He tells me that he will call the distributor and then call me back. He did not call me back. On November 27th, I called the distributor. I explained to them that I ordered a turntable in late July, but it only ordered the dealer in mid September. They seemed pretty concerned, and said they would check it out and call me back. They never did. On November 30th, I the dealer demanding my money back. The manager proceeded to explain to me that his investors are trying to close down the store and would not let him refund my money. He promised me that no matter what, I would get my turntable, and if not, the demo turntable in his store that is the model up from mine. I only have little doubt about his sincerity, but he does not seem to have full control over what is happening. I am worried that they will claim bankruptcy, or something before I get my turntable, or that they are just ripping me off. Thank you for any help you can provide me.

Sincerely,
Brian Norris
ohlala
I would definately take the Spacedeck, if I could. The Spacedeck and Spacearm is quite a step up from mine ($2500 v. $1500), but he mentioned it as a HIS last resort. I believe he was sincere in his offer, but who knows were it would really wind up in the dissolution of his store?. Initially, I felt that the difference between the two is too large, but after reading your post, I am trying to find a way to cover the difference...one hell of a way to get your customer to upgrade :).
I agree with perfectimage. Take the spacedeck now. You should remind him that YOUR last resort is to dispute the charge with your credit card company and get your money back. That's worse for him because he will be back charged, i.e. money taken out of his pocket. The spacedeck he has is just inventory sitting around and probably alread paid for; I'd get it before bankruptcy court and other creditors get it. At this rate, he probably is out 1500 (cost of spacedeck) minus the 1000 he got from you = 500. That's better than to lose 1000 on a back charge. That's 33 cents on the dollar which is still probably better than a court-ordered liquidation. In any case, I'd force the issue rather than let him cow you with promises, deferred gratification and veiled threats of his financial ruin. Good luck.
just curious ohlala, but it sounds like you paid the cc company before you got the 'table. did you? sorry to hear you're running into this scam. the usual con is to offer great deals in exchange for customer checks for goods that never get sent and of course don't exist. with luck and persistance the money is refunded but months later. i learned my lesson the hard way. good luck with your claim.
I agree that you should find a way to get the dealer to send the TT he has in his hands now even if you have to pay him some extra. Worst case is that when you try to be reasonable with him (by paying extra instead of just asking for the upgrade) he'll push back and be unreasonable. At that point you'd at least know that his "guarantee" is not sincere and that you'll never see the demo TT as compensation. If he is sincere, you risk paying extra when with a little waiting you might get it for free, but at this point it seems like good insurance. Believe me, if this guy is on the verge of bankruptcy and is anything less than a saint who knows he's going to declare soon and sends you the goods right under the wire, you won't get anything (at least for a LONG time) if he is forced into bankruptcy. Nobody is going to let him ship goods after declaring, so see what you can do to get him to send you what he has in his hands now for a reasonable price. -Kirk
I had exactly the same problem with some custom clothing I bought one summer and by December called Citibank. They took care of everything and refunded my money including interest over the 6 months (at their userous rate!). I ussume they charged the company all of it. good luck