Which phonostage is a heavenly match for a XV-1S

>>> It is ALWAYS about implementation <<<

very true, but top **inside** implementation aught to outperform top **outside** implementation.

The problem with a lot of good circuits is actually IMPLEMENTATION.
Any really good discrete component will cost often > 10x the price of one that ~ also can do...

I learned that lesson big time during x-over upgrading. No reason at all to think this be ANY different at all with other components.
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Dan_ed, It is hard to argue with your proposition, but in the case of inside vs outside, I personally far prefer built-in, for two reasons: (1) In-built phono stages, if properly designed, will usually not require a buffer stage (cathode-follower or emitter-follower) at the output to lower output Z, because the output leads need only be an inch or two long, whereas outboard phono stages usually do, because they have to drive the capacitance of the IC. The buffer invariable adds a coloration that I do not find pleasant, and (2) Built-in phono stages eliminate the need for an interconnect, which is yet another source of coloration (and cost), for good or evil. It is usually possible to design the power supply of a phonolinepreamp so as to ameliorate any problems related to having both units in the same box. In fact, it is entirely conceivable to have two discrete supplies in an all-in-one design (need two chassis, at least).

So, I have two built-ins to recommend, Dynavector's own preamp, the L300, and another that I love, the Crimson 710. Both are blessedly better than many out there, have remote, and work great with the XV-1S.

Yes, Lew, those are some good points about a built-in. Here are some good points about why I believe separates can sound better if done properly.

1- Power supply modulation of the phono stage by the line stage.
2- keeping the phono section off when not needed
3- ability to use the phono section closer to the source
4- more real estate in the box for loading options, dual MC sections etc.
5- it actually sounds better though this is the territory of diminishing returns. Many people may well be better off putting the extra cost to solving other issues in their systems.