i just bought and installed an 8C. i have a 5C as well, which led me to get the 8C. i did not receive a bag of nuts and bolts with mine. it was quite simple to install. i did have to terminate the loose wires though. as far as the sound goes, it is beautiful. i had a 12" micro seiki max 282 arm that i sold as soon as i installed the 5C. there was no sense in keeping it. it wasn't close to being in the same league as the 5C. the breuers are very musical. tremendous detail is drawn out of the grooves and the sound is effortless and natural. i'm using a benz micro ebony on the 8C and a benz H20 on the 5C. the 8C is on a micro seiki rx1500 and the 5C is on a micro seiki ddx1000,
good luck in your quest.
don
good luck in your quest.
don