Replace tnt2 springs with new vpi isolators?

Melm,
Are you referring to the TNT or the HW19 MK.IV? What are the cups your referring to? Mike told me about using the Foam Floaties for swimming pools, that is sold at Toys R Us....its a long foam tube, he said to cut like 3 inch peices, and try them in the 4 spring locations, if I wanted to experiment with a non spring suspended table. I have also heard of guys using squash balls, I think cut in half?? or is it the full ball? Any other special parts needed? Mike did tell me that instead of the $2400.00 to put a JMW 10.5i arm and armboard on my HW19 MK.IV, he could use a B Stock JMW 10.5i tonearm with armboard for $1400.00....but Im still not so sure about the JMW Tonearms. I have heard so many pros and cons....My ZETA is a very good tonearm, and matches well with most of todays top MC Cartridges. Ray

I'm talking TNT. I'm talking about something I've already done. Go to http://www.elusivedisc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HW-A1216

There you will see what I am talking about. However they want to sell you new "cups" at the 4 corners of the TNT. But all you really need is what is shown with the ball on top. The ball will rest against the top of the cups you already have but you may have to experiment with spacers. I made spacers out of wood. Under the ball there are two plastic parts that screw together allowing adjustment for height.

This is the arrangement that VPI has used to replace the bladders on the high end TNTs. It works great.

Thx for the tip Melm.
I was able to call VPI and get them to cancel the isolators since they had not gone out yet.
So its the whole ball and I just want to confirm that the part/s that Mike will sell me is all of the plastic gear below the ball? Chris

Yes, that's it. The reason the "kit" includes new stainless steel cups is that they are sized to make everything come out at just the right height. But they are the most expensive part of the kit. If Mike will sell you just the plastic gear below the ball (and the ball) you will have to experiment with spacers to make the whole thing come out at the right height. I used double sided tape to hold wooden spacers in the cup. It took me two tries, but it came out perfect. It was a clear improvement over the springs. Good luck!