Upgrade from TW Acustic Raven AC-3 to what?


I have had the TW turntable (with 10" Da Vinci Grandezza arm and Grandezza cartridge) for two years. I have been happy with this TT and can live with it for a long time although i wish it wasn't as dark sounding, that the soundstage could be more spacious and the bass tighter. The upgrade bug in me is wondering for 50K ore thereabout, is there a TT that is superlative over the TW? One that would end my upgrading itch for the next 10 years?
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Dear Thuchan, smart as it looks, expensive (and thus tempting...) as it is and originating from both our fatherland ( and thus I would love to promote it for its origin alone, - against all global thinking...) with its long time fame for excellent engineer approach - from my now 17 years 1st hand experience with active and passive air-supplied isolation for turntable design, I would always go for the passive option.
I know very well why and have learned from the past. The Halcyonics is active compensation by mechanical means.
Very similar to the feedback-loop in amplifier design and/or pre-compensation in loudspeakers (Backes&Mueller...).
The Minus-K ( almost as expensive, american made and pure passive in a VERY smart manner...) is more than just a serious contender.
In the Silencer you already see the "audiophile touch" - great looks, most money put into the fancy cosmetics - we are so accustomed to.
However - you get 98% of the performance with a Vibraplane for 20% of the money. Proofing again the principle of Pareto (even more here...).
The point is not, whether to use a Halyconics, Minus-K or Vibraplane or a custom made solution. The point is to understand the issue and to fine-tune the solution to the precise needs.
But the main point is - to do it.
Or in philosophical terms and phrases:
Either Descartes: cogito ergo sum...
or J-P Satre: to be is to do .....
or rather Frank Sinatra: schubi-dubbie-doo.........
Dear Dertonarm,
I see your point very well, if someone will invest the money i´d rather like watching the race between active and passive isolation by myself - just for interest.The question remains if it is worth the investment. Nevertheless you also know the famous words: no risk no fun...
or: believe what you hear
or: trust your good friends
Dear Thuchan, see whenever possible I look for the option which does involve the least periphery and as few parts which can actually fail. Thus bringing the meantime before failure as well as the percentage of possible failure to the minimum possible.
All this of course with equal performance. In this particular matter it all comes down to low resonance frequency and high damping - no matter whether active or passive.
"We will never see a lightweight TT nor an unsuspended one, with a platter less than 30-50 lbs coming anywhere near the point of closing the book on TT nor approaching its true frontiers.
As we all will see - as they will come and go in half years turn.
The same they have done so for the past 40+ years in high-end."
You misread my comments - my turntable is the Final Audio Parthenon - 25kg+ platter, massive bearing and composite gunmetal rigid plinth and armboards, along with massive motor using power regeneration and power amp for the motor. If you do a search on the net you will find that the top brinkmann's etc are still catching up to my turntable which was built in the 70's. Final used to "upgrade" the big micro's as well as build their own turntable. I dont like the SP10 mkiii just said it was the best dd I've heard. And yes I've had the air bearing tables, arms and moved on. I seem to be sensitive to speed stability, timing and compression - dont want a rose tinted front end with timing issues.