Upgrade from TW Acustic Raven AC-3 to what?

"Ain't that the truth. Funny how so many end users find the net result to be simpatico. I am an agnostic, haven't heard it. But I do love my own Lenco L75 with PTP in slate plinth. I am sure you have made an uninformed negative judgement of that as well."

Careful Lew. I believe we are standing in the shadow of a 21st Century Tesla here. ;)

Hi Ebm, why Black Knight? I haven't heard it but is it fundamentally different from Raven AC in some ways that a cow (albeit a very good one...no intended disrespect to other Raven AC owners please) has become a racing horse? my little dissatifaction with the Raven AC is that in my set up with the associated equipment and TT isolation and room acoustics etc, is that it sounds a little too thick and muscular in tonality, has accentuated mids with a mid bass hump, is darkish sounding, has not as spacious soudstage than I wish for, and the separation of images during complex passages of a full orchestra could be better. Perhaps other Raven AC users dont have these problems, i dont know.
I am trying out some tweaks suggested by postings above. Hope they will help.
Rgds
alec

Hi Alectiong, what's the rest of your system comprise of, possibly you should be looking somewhere else within the line.

Thucan

" Alectioning, what I learned from a friend in France: it is not easy to sell a Raven at the moment. I do not why but many potential buyers my friend contacted were quickly offered nearly new Ravens for a very good price. I have no clue how this could work."

that's a nice thinly veiled, but rather pathetic shot at TW.

Exactly what was the point of this comment?

Even if it was true, I would suspect any expensive turntable may be hard to sell in this current environment.

Dear Alectiong, Has your system ever previously given you those qualities which you now say are missing with the Raven AC? If so, was it an analog or digital source that gave you greater satisfaction? I will say that what you are seeking (or what you say is lacking from the Raven presentation) is in the very essence of what distinguishes a great idler-drive or direct-drive implementation from an otherwise great belt-drive one, in my limited experience. However, you might be able to get what you want from the Raven, if you were willing to modify its drive system (one motor with a pinch roller or rim drive; the added noise of the Teres rim drive motor is a trade-off you might find easy to live with). Personally, I never was convinced of the 3-motor approach. I think it is "sand in the public eye".