BTW, the Joseph Audio Insiders use the Triad sealed box enclosure and Triad grill. Triad makes high quality stuff, but arguably Joseph uses better drivers and especially better x-overs. They better be good or they wouldn't sell a single pair, especially at $2750. Check out my pics. My in-walls don't sound like crap, quite the opposite, and I have been in this hobby for 20 years dialing in high end systems. Just take care with the install and be specific with the cables used in the wall.