Azden Cartridges

Raul where are you?

Hello all, so Mofi if this is true, which is a more desirable of the the 3? I've always been under the impression that Line contact were the more desirable, Is this true?

I'm betting that it has to do with which era of pressings dominate your collection....

please elaborate
cheers
-b

The job of the stylus is to trace, (or retrace) the groove as close as possible to the actual cutting stylus. So, in this case, yes the line contact will have a closer profile to the cutting stylus.

Dear Braab8: Common sense tell us that line contact could has better quality performance, why I say " could "?

Well, the line contact stylus on cartridge needs a more precise cartridge set up: VTA/SRA, VTF, Azymuth, etc, etc, if not then we can aware of the line contact stylus shape advantages.

Now, if you read through the MM/MI thread you can see that several non line contact cartridges performs better that other line contact stylus shape cartridges even in the same model like in Ortofon M20FL Super ( line contact ) where almost all the owners with the FL and the E ( elipthical. ) version prefer this one .

I buy through garage-a-records the E version of the Azden that I try briefly and sounds good but not better than the VL version but I need more time ( 20 hours at least ) with the E one.

In the other side seems to me that the cartridge body is the same for all models.
I know that Dgob own both cartridges: the 50VL and the 50E, maybe he can comes and put additional " light " on the subject.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

Raul/Jmowbray,

The body of the 50VL is gold and that on the 50E (and of the 50C) is silver. I hear differences when switching the styli. Meaning that I get similar performance from both dependent on which stylus is used, which leads me to believe that the styli are the real difference.

Thanks Dgob. I noticed the color difference (in photos) which is why I was wondering if they were the same or not.

If you look at the specs for the 4 P-mount cartridges:

http://cgi.ebay.com/AZDEN-YM-P50C-MOVING-MAGNET-STEREO-CARTRIDGE-W-STYLUS_W0QQitemZ170452248102QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27afbee626

you can see that the YM-P20E uses the same stylus as the P50E but has only 24dB channel separation where the P50E has 28dB. Both have the same frequency response specifications. Looking at these 2 cartridges, it is clear that the P20E has a different cartridge body than the 50 series.

When you look at the specs for the 50 series cartridges, the differences between the 3 in their channel separation and frequency response specs seem to correspond with improving stylus shape. This make sense logically.

I asked the original question because I have an apparently defective YM-P50VL (no left channel) and want to take the stylus assembly from the defective cartridge and put it on a YM-P50C body. On paper it seems like it will work but I'll have no reference point for comparison purposes unless I can somehow get the original P50VL to work.

Jack