Blue Note reissues


I became a serious vinyl convert less than a year ago and ever since have been buying records regularly to enlarge my collection. I listen almost exclusively to jazz and buy new reissues of jazz releases, most of them on Blue Note, but also Prestige, Riverside and Columbia.

To say that I am disappointed by the quality of the vinyl is an understatement. Virtually every record is warped, which I can live with, reluctantly. A bigger problem is the distortion that becomes more and more prevalent on reissues. It's a short buzzing sound, which sounds kind of like the sound of lost airwaves on the radio but higher in pitch. I know it's not my cart as I have records that sound perfect, and it's in the the same spot on faulty records so it must be a quality issue with transfer and manufacture.
I also own quite a few used original pressings or old reissues and none of them have a similar defect, which leads me to believe that it is a current problem with quality control. It is extremely frustrating as I've spent thousands of dollars on my rig and record cleaning machine only to spin warped records that sound distorted.

I know this topic has been discussed many times here on A-gon but I would actually like to do something about it. I know many designers and manufacturers read the forum, but it seems not record companies' reps as it's not getting any better. As a community of many thousands who pay a lot of money to indulge in our hobby and passion, I think we should be able to exert some level of pressure on companies like Blue Note to release products of high quality. I'm open to ideas and suggestions. Where I could, I emailed the record company, but Blue Note for example has not contact info at all. Also, I'm afraid single emails won't do much.
actusreus
A friend of mine moved to France and I have been receiving all of his Music Matters and Acoustic Sounds Blue Note reissues. Before forwarding them on to him, I examined and listened to every one so if any were defective I could secure a replacement from here in the States. Every LP is perfect, no issues whatsoever. And of course they sound superb and I wish I could afford to subscribe to these reissues.

While that is testimony to Music Matters and Acoustec reissues, I regularly receive other reissues that are warped, buzz, click and pop. Or, are so poorly remastered that they sound strident or compressed. Ray Brown's "Soular Energy" from Pure Audiophile Records was unbearably bright and an email to them went unanswered...of course.

This applies to new issues as well. I've been thru four copies of Stanley Clark's "Jazz In The Garden", from Heads UP label, to get one free of problems. Why should that be?

It is disconcerting and frustrating that several new LP's I have purchased in the last year are (censored) up for one reason or another. The buyers of vinyl and their dealers must endure the consequences of poor quality control. I'm weary of the "throw it against the wall and see what sticks" mentality of manufacturers who produce LP's that require me to take a chance every time I buy one. It should not be "like a box of chocolates:!!!

Bottom line? I agree completely with Actusreus but we are probably too small a number to make a case.
The best thing is to buy from a dealer who will take them back no question I guess. Maybe I can add a list to track bad pressings to my blog too.
I'm one my 2nd copy of a double LP, new release from RCA Sony. Both have been all marked up like they had been played on a crappy table. They were clean of course, but in indirect light all these surface marks were apparent, AND some pitting too!
"In 2009 to celebrate the album's 50th anniversary, Sony Music decided to reissue the album newly mastered from the same original 3 track master Classic had used, both on CD and blue vinyl as part of a box set containing a book and other supplementals. That set can still be found online in in some stores.

The lacquers were cut (speed corrected) from the 3-track original tape by George Marino at Sterling Sound and plated and pressed on 180g blue vinyl either at Rainbo in California or at United in Nashville (I can't remember which). Unfortunately, virtually every copy pressed was horrendously noisy for the first ten minutes or so (at least) due, probably to "non-fill" that occurs when the vinyl begins to harden before it's squeezed outward fully and the plate's ridges can create a clean groove.

What a shame!

However, at the same time the lacquer was cut, Marino created a 96k/24 bit file from which the set's CD was produced. That file was used by Music on Vinyl, a European company that some years ago bought Sony's Holland-based vinyl pressing plant.

This two LP set is also pressed on blue vinyl. The first album is the KOB we all know and love but speed corrected, while the second LP has the alternative version of "Flamenco Sketches" on one side and a version of "On Green Dolphin Street" recorded prior to the KOB sessions featuring the Evans, Coltrane, Chambers and Cobb lineup."

I have the Music On Vinyl copy and like I said, the horns break up at that low volume while the rest of the spectrum is fine. Must be the horns mic'ing or needing dejuicing.
So it’s not just me then! Thank goodness I found this thread because people thought I was crazy when I talked about this.

Granted, my classic Blue Note records from the ’70s are all exemplary pressings and beyond reproach, but this latest batch of Blue Note reissues has made me Kind of Blue.

And I wonder if it’s just the records in the Canadian market, and if they’re pressed in Canada, because other posters on the forum have had no issues.

It started when I purchased a copy of Norah Jones Come Away with Me on the Blue Note label at our esteemed BBR store here in downtown Toronto.

The album looked great, 180g vinyl, really nice packaging, and I love Norah Jones. But when I brought it home and gave it a spin, it was unbelievable. The only thing that wasn’t wrong with it, is that it didn’t skip.

So where do I begin? The record was off-centre, so the tonearm swayed from left to right. And it was also warped, so the tonearm moved up and down, the combined effect had the head shell doing a repetitive figure-of-eight pattern, which would be comical if I wasn’t so annoyed.

Now I’m not one of those nutty audiophile-types who claim to hear things that aren’t really there. I just want a brand-new record to sound like, well, a brand-new record. But this had clicks and pops and crackles, first time out of the package, just like a used record.

But then, the most egregious malady here was the distortion mentioned earlier in the thread – that awful buzzing sound. And it was more prevalent towards the end of the album.

So naturally I think my cartridge is out of kilter. I get out the protractors and redo the alignment, several times actually, to no avail. On the passages where she sings very high or loudly, it literally breaks up into a cringe-inducing racket.

Then there was the surface noise (in addition to the clicks and pops). All these hissing and swishing sounds in-between the cuts, (with the tonearm doing its figure-eights) and also in the quiet passages.

When I examined the surface of the record under the light, I could see an uneven, shiny, mottled effect across both sides, almost as if the record was damaged by heat.

I tried it on my other turntable with the Rega tonearm, and still the distortion in the same places and the swishy sounds.

It was a terrible shame to hear Norah Jones’ voice ruined like this, and I wonder if she even knows that her albums are being distributed in Toronto in this terrible condition.

I don’t blame the retailer, but they should put some pressure on their reps. I don’t think enough people return these things, perhaps not wanting to appear like fussy fanatics.

I returned the album, and BBR was kind enough to replace it, albeit with another one from the same stack. When I got it home, it was exactly the same, if not worse, than the first one.

Later, I took a chance and bought another Blue Note reissue from the same store. McCoy Tyner’s, The Real McCoy. This is one had the CD in with the record. However, this particular record was OK.

All these albums were priced about $23-$25 Canadian, so they’re not high-end recordings, but I’d at least expect them to sound slightly better than K-Tel, not a whole lot worse.

Yesterday I picked up Hank Mobley’s Soul Station on yet another Blue Note reissue, from the same dealer. I was shocked when I got it home. Quality-wise, the record sleeve is a very cheap cardboard, almost like construction paper (which doesn’t really bother me if the record sounds good). The vinyl itself is so thin that it’s floppy, reminiscent of those crappy thin albums we used to get during the ’70s.

When I opened the album and took it out for the first time, there were streaks across both surfaces, what looked like grease marks, smudges or fingerprints, but that’s not possible right? This is a brand-new album.

When I played it, the audio sounded OK, but I was very annoyed to hear scratchiness with pops and clicks in between album tracks. I have yard sale records that sound better than this. On some tracks, during quiet passages, this scratchy sound was coming through. I wouldn’t say it entirely ruined the recording, but it did sound like an old, used record.

Again, upon close inspection of the record surface, I found that same shiny, uneven, melted, mottled effect, that I know for sure can’t sound good when played.

So what’s going on? Is it only the Canadian records? Surely they can’t be seriously trying to sell these without any quality control. They’re probably manufactured in some substandard, no-name factory in Scarborough with cheap, sweat-shop labour and no training on how to properly press records. It is a lost art that, like the manufacture of vacuum tubes, has to be learned all over again in these modern times.

As one poster put it earlier, the original Blue Note record company that we all know and love, has very little to do with these records other than the name on the front. I realize that.

As another poster here said, I would like to send this record to one of the executives of the company and ask them if this is what they consider a worthy standard.

As far as the audio community pressuring the record manufacturer, I’d expect that our concerns would fall on deaf ears. The one and only thing that will get a corporation to pay attention, is negative press. Reputational damage that results in substantial loss of sales.

The record reviewers, audio magazines and websites need to get the word out about what a sham these records are. It’s the big lie – you think you’re buying Blue Note quality but you end up with garbage, and the corporate head office doesn’t care because they have your money now.

In any case, that’s the last time for me with Blue Note reissues.