Albert Porters after market panzerholz plinths

Dear John: Attacks?, for me some one that is unaware of " something " it is an ignorant on that subject.
How do you name your ignorance, that kind of " unaware/ignorance?

Allnic?: just pathetic.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

Raul- Please understand that I respect and admire your deep understanding of LP playback. But - to label Allnic as "pathetic"? A generalization such as that one damages your credibility. We all understand your passion for the hobby, and we respect it, but you should be more gracious than that. Rule number one in business: Never bad mouth the competition. Tell me why your product is better. Don't tell me the competition is "pathetic". Remember that you are a manufacturer as well as a hobbyist.

Disclaimer: Allnic dealer (and yes, I have heard Raul's phonolinestage in my system, and it sounded great)

Perhaps trounced was too harsh a word, but in fact the Technics won out. The judgement and final conclusion were made after many weeks of care listening, discussion, and evaluation by a diverse group of individuals, not a weak one in the bunch who is prone to be swayed by group opinion. Many different kinds of records and music were auditioned, audiophile quality or not, from old blues recordings from the early fifties to the latest release of high quality recordings of Baroque and classical music. No opinions were formed on the basis of listening a single favorite track from the latest Janis Ian release. No one in our group "works the room" to extract an opinion from someone else that is in agreement with their own. Certainly Albert, above all, seeks comment and opinion from his friends to help clarify what exactly is happening with his system.

The original poster wanted to know what opinion people had of the Porter Panzerholz plinth and that is what he got from me.

John

The Panzerholz plinths sold by Albert are designed strictly to damp vibration from the cogging action of the powerful DC mother which by necessity is in communion with the platter and the rest of the chassis. In no way is there a claim that it will isolate the cartridge from vibration external to the turntable. The designer has no control over external forces and the plinth is designed to give the user a compact and self contained (as well as aesthetically pleasing) solution to the problem of noise intrinsic to the motor itself without him having to resort to the aggravating hair-shirt method of placing the armboard in a physically detached position from the rest of the turntable.

John

Dear Slipknot1: Pathetic was for Jlsemrad that bring to the thread an audio item that has nothing " to see " with the TT subject, I wonder what he want it to explain ( I don't care at all any more. ).

+++++ " Rule number one " +++++

btw, maybe those rules were " writed " by the AHEE and I don't always follow its rules. Even I don't always follow what I learned into the AHEE, remember?: " thinking out of the basket " .

If I need it or ask for I always like to share my experiences with out hide anything even if goes against me or against my audio item designs.
I can't be in other way or change that attitude.

Example, if you ask me something: what do you prefer? that I give a nice answer only for you be " happy " or you want to hear what I have to say about?

Do you know something?: time ago my audio friends call me to meet me at their homes along other persons to heard his system and give my opinion along the other people opinion. Through the time these same audio guys now call me for the similar " job " but along no one: just me ( private. ). You know why?, exactly that's why.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

Jlsemrad, Interesting idea. Perhaps the reason that Raul likes the outboard tonearm pod with his plinth-minimal SP10 is related to isolating the tonearm from undamped resonances created by the motor. Still, I think the tonearm and bearing need optimally to reside in a closed system with each other.