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Dear Lewm: On other topic: TT torque. I would like what do you think on the whole torque subject?

In a home system IMHO we really don't need that fast start/stop that the SP-10 or DP100 or EMT has and that was asked in Radio broadcasting job or for Djs. These TTs were not designed for audiophile specific needs.

I never had on hand the today DD Monaco design and I can't speak if comes with that kind of very high torque.

We really need it? or a DD design for home systems really does not need it and maybe could work/perform better with lower torque? what do you think?

Maybe Teres too could put some light on this important TT characteristic? or Monaco TT owners and of course any one that could share his experiences about.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

Raul,

The DP100 was very specifically designed for audiophiles. Denon sold their DN-307s and 308s for radio station and other pro use. The people at Denon's affiliated repair place are adamant about that. The Denon DN-308F is also a high-torque beast.

From everything I have been able to find out the SP-10MkII and Mk3 as are seen and used by audiophiles were specifically designed for audiophiles. The broadcast-use tables had different features.

I can't speak for the EMTs. The EMT lookalike Sony PS-X9 was sold to radio stations and audiophiles alike burI can't find any evidence they were ever used in Japan in radio stations though I have seen a couple of absolute 'beaters' in my time, which indicates to me it is possible. I know of two people, one in Germany and one in the UK who have ex-radio station PS-X9s. Most of them in Japan were audiophile-bought/owned.

The Exclusive P3 and P3a, the Onkyo PX-100M and the Lo-D TU-1000 were also very expensive audiophile-oriented high-torque tables without a broadcast market.

Thank you, T-Bone.

regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

Is not the Micro Seiki DQX-500 basically a 'nude' direct drive from 30 years ago?
Has anyone had direct experience with this model to see whether they agree with Raul's 'nude' preferences (no pun here Raul)?

Raul, I guess what I was speculating about earlier is as follows: Many/most of us equate the good qualities of the Garrard/Lenco/SP10s/etc to the "high torque" of their respective motors. Turns out in real analysis done by Mark Kelly that the Garrard and Lenco motors are in fact not particularly high in torque; they are just large in size and relatively inefficient in converting AC input to power output. Yet without a doubt both are wonderful sounding turntables (even better when installed in proper plinths, I would insist). With the SP10s and some other DD tables, they really do have high torque motors and do also sound good. I just don't know whether the two facts (torque and sound quality) are linearly related. It seems to me that what we are liking about these idler- and direct-drive turntables is inherently related to the drive mechanisms but not necessarily to motor torque. I had promised myself not to make any more sweeping generalizations for which my listening experience is totally inadequate, but here I've done it again. I can also say, to support my thesis in part, that the Kenwood L07D motor has only "adequate" torque, yet the L07D just is a fantastic turntable. For another thing, my tricked out Denon DP80 has much less torque than my SP10 Mk2 and sounds as good, in similar slate plinths.