I need help with a Dual 1219 that rumbles?

Jeff Dorgay just released issue 31 of Tone and he has a whole bit on Dual turntables titled "Fix my Dual" ... you should check it out. He specifically mentions the 1219. He has a couple of web sites listed you can go to, fixmydual being one of them.

Does it make the same noise when its in the plinth? I think they have a spring suspension.Anyhow,when some TT's are run on something solid instead of floating on the springs, the motor does amplify itself for some reason.If you could,try lifting it up of off the saw horses if you don't have the original plinth with the spring suspension,and see if it quiets down.Of course if it does it in the original plinth,then this wouldn't apply.The idler wheel may be hard,or some other rubber parts mentioned above.

Also if it does this in the plinth,make sure it is floating free without touching the plinth.If it is bumping the plinth,that could cause a problem too.

Thanks for all the good info. Very interesting idea about the platter bearing being loaded with the idler wheel. There is a slight oscillation in the frequency of the noise. Bill at fix my Dual has had this thing twice. It works perfectly and sounds great but he hasn't been able to eliminate the noise. If I wanted a Rega I would buy one. I will check the article in Tone. I actually have it sitting on the spring suspension on the saw horses. I think the hard rubber thing is probably the problem. It is 38 years old or so. The tt is floating in the plinth. thanks again for all the great input, Markus

This brings back memories of my first hi-end system. I was 16, and bought a Dual 1215-S turntable in 1971 I think it was, along with KLH 17 speakers and a Harmon Kardon receiver after studying Consumer Reports. The whole thing cost me about $300. A lot of lawns cut to pay for that system!

After I hooked everything I realized the table had both wow and flutter. Dual at that time was located in Mt. Vernon, NY, about 20 minutes from where I lived. I took the table there and told the service guy, an older German guy, that I just bought this turntable and it had wow and flutter. He sort of laughed at me, then took the table to the back room, and came back a short while later to say I was right. He replaced both the platter and motor. It was fine after that and ran well for years.