Nude Turntable Project


I could not fit the whole story in this Forum so have had to add it to my System Page.
I am attempting to hear if a 'naked' DD turntable can sound as good as Raul claims.
Please click the link below to read the story.
NUDE TT81
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Thanks Ecir38,
It's not your fault.....it's my stupidity.
I suspect that Stanwal and others are correct in the placement theory of my Victor in relation to the speaker/subwoofer/corner but I need my preamp back to test it out?
A spare phono wouldn't work as the whole preamp with inbuilt phono-stage needs to be sent to the technician.
I do have a spare preamp but......whilst in storage....the left channel stopped working so it has also gone to the technician!
Additionally.....things have changed in my set-up.
I now use fully balanced connections between pre and amps as well as balanced phono cables from all but 2 of my arms.
The back-up preamp does not have any balanced inputs or outputs.
You win some.......you lose some :-(
"It is now possible for me to design a circular aluminium frame cut and welded out of 10mm thick flats into which I can just 'drop' the Victor."

Be careful, Henry, that's what some of us call "a plinth".

If you want to take the time to describe in greater detail the events surrounding your disaster, perhaps I can help. I have quite a bit of DIY experience. From what you wrote, I don't have a clear idea. Was the Cu180 placed UNDER the TT101 prior to the event? And what exactly was the "event"? A burst of very high level signal is a danger to speakers primarily; I would not expect it to damage a phono stage or other electronic devices. An alternative hypothesis is that something blew in the phono stage, which is what you heard as a burst of loud noise. Nothing to do with acoustic feedback. But I don't know all the facts.
I was also thinking shouldn't the speakers been damaged and not the phono stage. You may be right Lew that something was going array in the FF line stage.
Lewm,
My take from his description is that he unmuted the preamp when MC was selected with the volume up and a MM installed - hence this probably blew the phono stage.
Now the feedback he referred to in the other thread could be any of physical, acoustic or electrical. We dont have enough info as you say.
Physical - just put the TT on a rubber sponge and see if it changes the level of feedback, if so this suggests physical. Swap the TT's around and recheck.
Electrical - could be earthing related or could be adverse reaction from combo of cartridge & 2.5 metres of Cardas litz, ie tuned circuit from those cartridges and cabling is upsetting the phono stage.
Hi Lew,
I agree.....speakers are normally the first thing to 'blow' with a sudden violent volume? I've had it happen to me and lost not only the tweeters....but also the midrange drivers!
Because of the shock factor.....I'm a little confused about the exact sequence of events but because I was testing this 'feedback' loop with various different turntable supports (including rubber sponge etc)....I will describe the methods I followed:-
1. Turntable motor is not switched on
2. Preamp volume control is turned down
3. Mute button is 'on'
4. Acutex 420STR cartridge is placed on the record
5. Mute button is switched 'off'
6. Volume control is gently turned up until low volume of 'feedback' just begins
7. Without touching the volume again....the feedback increases itself until I hastily turn it down and engage 'mute'

Now I had the MM gain input selected....not MC....and had the volume turned down as I described. Then I supported the copper Cu180 'plate' on spikes on the shelf and placed the Victor directly on the Cu180.
I placed the 420STR on the record and hit the 'mute' and that's when an almighty noise erupted.
It was a couple of seconds before I could hit the 'mute' to stop the noise.

Now here's where my memory seems confused?
I thought I repeated the testing of this feedback with the Victor on the Cu180 and the feedback loop at a lower volume whereupon I then returned the Victor to its original spiked support and then switched phono inputs to the Raven AC.
It was then that I had no sound from the phono stage. I reconnected a tonearm from the Victor and confirmed no sound and tried it with my headphones as well. All other preamp inputs (tuner, CD, tape, AUX) were fine.

Perhaps the fact that the 420STR is like a giant antenna (according to Chris and the Professor Timeltel).......the hunk of copper under the Victor, induced the feedback at a much lower volume level than otherwise?