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$12K Laser turntable vs $12k hi-fi turntable?

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I just read up on the ELP laser turntable. They have a model for $12k that plays 33&45 rpm records. You already know the skinny on laser tables that there is no contact with the lp. The question here is that will that same $12k put into a conventional table, arm and cartridge outperform its laser counterpart. I rarely see laser tables mentioned here. With their cost within the range of some conventional turntable setups, why don't we see more of them on Audiogon? Are they musical? I hear that they are very accurate.
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drjoe
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To Rauliruegas and Bigbucks5, I wasn't implying that the
unit was digital. I guess what I meant was if you took a CD
and the LP of the same recording and compared the two
sources, the LP sounds more musical and pleasing to the ears. The ELP just didn't have the sound of a fine
turntable playback system. I hope this explains my comments. Also , are the electronics that convert the
laser to an analog signal doing something ?
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mikelavigne
2,199 posts
 
above i called the ELP 'veiled' with a mist over the music. certainly not like digital in a sense that good digital is not veiled, it's just missing information compared to analog. the ELP adds an artifact of the reading process which i heard as a greyness that always drew attention to itself. OTOH it was quite detailed and neutral tonally. the more i listened the more the artifact drew attention to itself.

there are reproduction artifacts i can live with and even enjoy, such as a touch of added warmth or maybe added bloom. but this particular artifact i heard in the ELP is a deal breaker for me.
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rauliruegas
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Dear Mikelavigne: +++++ " it's been 4 or 5 years since i heard an ELP turntable, so it's possible they've been improved. " +++++

as you said maybe things are better today.

I think that the prove is tohave an opportunity to hear it in its today status because in those 5 years many things could happened for the better: I hope.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.
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