TW-Acustic Raven AC3 latest version vs older


There are allot of owners of this table and AC along with others whom I'm sure can chime in with information and findings.

My understanding is the latest version of this table has gone threw some changes over the years and at least one of these can't be applied if you have an older table. (bearing)

-CONTROLLER UNIT, latest had TW engraved in the face plate. I have read that some prefer the older version, care to elaborate further.
Also some are using the Black Knights, care to elaborate on the sonic differences.

-ARM BOARD

-ISOLATION FEET, anyone notice what effects these offer
also some have gone with the same ones used on the Black Knight

-MOTORS, I have three. I noticed viewing some other owners that the construction they seem to have less stainless steel base, anyone notice any diffferences sonically, if so what.

Some are using the Black Knights motor, what have you noticed to be the difference sonically

-BEARING, this is much more involved so not just an easy switch or ad on, my understanding you need a new platter etc. much more involved. The bearing is a different size and has isolation of some sort, tighter toilerances which in the end offers less noise.
If anyone has pictures or can elaborate better would be great and to see.
You can pm me personally if this is your preference.
dev
Dev, I am curious to learn whether you have had the 3 motors from the beginning or whether you worked your way up to 3 from one. There are many theoretical problems, or lets call them "issues" with 3 motors, and I wonder about your journey to get there. What differences did you hear with 3 motors vs one motor or 2 motors, if you ever tried either of the latter set-ups. Thanks.

For belt-drive, Dertonearm is a proponent of two motors set up at 180 degrees opposite each other, FWIW.
Hi Lew,
I worked my way up from 1 motor to 3 on my AC-3 and have tried it with the 180 degrees 2 motor set-up as well.
3 motors sounds best to these ears.

Cheers
Hi Lewm, I don't have near the long term expearience of moost of the AC1-AC3 owners here on Gon, I first tried the Raven One and then moved right to the AC3 and that experience was huge difference in my set-up. A friend and member Glai has a AC1 and asked me to do some comparisons for him so I did.

In my set-up I only tried configurations one vs three, I really don't care about physics, theory etc. just the end result and to my ears I prefered the three motor. Don't know what's going on and really don't care but it was a pretty easy exercise.

F.Y.I. I actually just sold my AC3 which is a great table and I could have lived with it for a very long time, I truely enjoyed it's short term stay but if you refer back to my past threads you will read from the get go I was looking at actually getting the BK from the get go but decided to take my time and get my feet wet which I have and now have a BK on it's way. To be honest if I knew what I know now I would not have bought the Raven One because the info. I read was not accurate sugesting it sounds very close or similar to the Raven AC, sorry don't want t ostep on any toes but in my set-up there is no comparison so if I would have known that then I would have bi-passed it saving my self some time and money loss.

Looking forward to getting the BK, I'm also ordering the TW 10.5 arm which I'll pair up with my XV-1s cart latest version along with installing my REED 12" arm with MSL cart, well actually my good friend Rickmak will do the initial set-up and then I do minor adjustments dialing it in.
Well guys I wanted to update this thread.

I got my Black Knight table unscaved by the delivery demons, thank goodness. I had never seen one in person, only pics, boy is this a pce of art. It's absolutely gorgeous, the attention to detail is very impressive.

Two thumbs up to you Thomas! Thank you for taking the time to actually come up with such a design and then executing it.

I got it set up on my Minus K., that was a work out. Putting it in place and then taking it off again, you have to find the centre of gravity for the Minus K. to be effective and work correctly but once done you just forget it.

I also received my TW 10.5 arm, also very nice. I have it mounted but not yet with a cart, I decided to sell my XV-1s latest version so if someone is looking it's currently posted.

I did get my 12" REED arm with MSL BC cart set-up and all I can say is I'm very happy indeed. My system over all has never even come close to sounding like it does currently.