Has anyone tried the new Lyra Kleos?


I have used a Helikon for about 4 years and it is beginning to show its age. I thought I would either try the new Kleos or move up the ladder to the Skala. Does anyone have information about the Kleos or read a review?

Thanks.

Randy
randypeck
Hi Jr W:

In past years we made physically shorter cartridges, like the Clavis DC. or the Parnassus DCt. With these, we sometimes received complaints from owners of certain tonearms such as the SME V and IV. The short cartridge height allowed the tapered armtube to touch down on the LP midway through a side, which was a most unpleasant surprise to the listener when it happened.

Since the Titan, Dorian and Argo, I have attempted to standardize on our cartridge dimensions, to make it easier for our users to change from one Lyra model to another. Those dimensions are as follows: in the vertical plane, between 17 and 18mm from tonearm headshell surface to stylus (with VTF applied), and in the horizontal plane, from 9.52mm (3/8 inch) from mounting screw centers to the stylus.

The only occasions when I have allowed myself to deviate from the above is when the size of the body mechanisms were too large to fit without enlarging the cartridge body. Fortunately, that has not happened in production yet - only for prototype cartridges.

In my recent designs, I have built various internal mechanisms into the cartridge body, and this has required a certain amount of physical space. It would not have been possible to package the mechanisms of the Kleos, for example, into a shorter cartridge, and even so I needed to use shorter components for parts of the body structure than what I normally use.

kind regards, jonathan carr
Yes, I realized even while posting that the arm just needed a little more UP VTA, I bet a person could shim the arm assembly -plinth junction a bit pretty easily. It's not really a problem unless you have your heart set on using a mat, and I don't.

It's still a keeper!
Jonathan,

Would the new lyra cartridges continue to have a hole drilled in the body, allowing for fast mounting on the Centroid arm?

Thanks

Gordon
I am using a Delos on a Origin Live Aurora with Encounter arm and I am having no issues. Setup is critical. 1.76 VTF and a fair amount of antiskate. Antiskate is imporatant to get right. VTA with the tone arm about level or slightly tail up, adjusted by ear. I listened to Lucinda Willams Live album last night and really enjoyed it. I felt about as close to being there as possible. I'm very happy with the Delos so far.
I'm using the Skala on a Unify 9" arm, mounted on a Clearaudio Performance drive, with a motor regulation.
So far, I could say it outperforms many combinations that I listen to (I was working with a major distributor having Clearaudio, Lyra, EMT, Brinkmann, Koetso and sometimes other cartridges in stock). Especially the Clearaudio don't have any chance, maybe except the DaVinci. The Koetsus sound too dull but have lots of body.
Recently a friend of mine bought Kleos, on his Jelco arm (which I think is inferior to the Unify, although it's a 12"), mounted on a Dr. Feickert Blackbird. I was thrilled by the sound, but couldn't make a one to one comparison.
Fact is: the Skala is not a full bodied sounding cartridge, but its transparency, sweet treble, sound stage and mor are outstanding. Question is, does the Kleos which seems to have similar virtues, sound as good, but maybe with more body?

If yes, I'll place an order tomorrow!

Cheers,
Dan.