Uni-Protractor Set tonearm alignment

Dear Raul

I use a $2 Ortofon tractor with my AS-309 and I get zero inner groove tracking issues.

I also now use the free Graham alignment jig instead of the Mint LP version. I get better sound from the so-called imprecise Graham jig. Did I waste my $$ on the MintLP - not really - part of the hifi hobby I am afraid.

You seem to be inferring that Dert is a "false prophet" in bringing out yet another "Universal" alignment tool. I guess you are adding Yip from MintLP and well as Feikert?.
You also infer that anyone spending $$ on these type of devices are "ignorant"

Some may say I followed a "false prophet" in wasting some of my $$ on some MM cartridges.

Guess what, this is all part of out enjoyment of this hobby and we all live and learn.

I would say everyone who has spent there hard earned $695 on Dert's alignment tool has gone in with their eyes open and probably a deal of skepticism.

Frankly Dert has left his credibility wide open if the tool is not as good or better as what is out there now - but good on him for putting his $$ where his mouth is.

I for one will quite openly tell how this tool works in my system - good bad or indifferent.

So Raul, how about you be a gentlemen and play nice for a change and wait for some of the folks who have paid real $$ before you call folks "false prophets"

have a nice musical day

Dear Downunder: You said it not me.

I'm not talking about DT protractor but about what Thuchan posted so please read that post.

With all respect to those gentlemans: How do you name persons that cloned the Löfgren equations and present/introduce a " new " solutions as his solutions ?, false prophet is to much to you? ok change the name but things does not change. I think that " false prophet " is very elegant for that people.
Downunder, try to clone dollars or Yens and I can tell you that you could end on jail.

If you think you waist your money with MM/MI cartridges then you do it by ignorance and as you said: is part of our day by day hobby and like me you learned in that MM/MI subject in the same manner that I learned on the protractors subject after paid for my ignorance.

I bought and spended thousands of big dollars in " tons " of LOMC cartridges thank's to my ignorance and thank's to all those " false prophets " that supported this LOMC subject.

Which name do you like for this kind of people?

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

Dear Raul,
Löfgren has not "detected" anything. Neither did Baerwald nor Stevenson nor any of the other persons which did calculations regarding the tracking arc and where to set the 2 tangential zero error points. You are missing one of a few vital pints here.
This is simply applied mathematic - geometry to be precise.
The last facts in known geometry of relevance to our small world which were "detected", were so many many centuries ago.

It is not just about average, peak weighted and/or maximum distortion and comparing those figures.
We have that way to evaluate things in all kinds of statistic everyday life and they are widely used to generalize issues by politicians worldwide with known intent and effect.
Is there a better tangential calculation with better distortion figures for a FR-64s possible - better than Baerwald ( Löfgren A), Löfgren (B) or Stevenson ?
Yes - of course.
Same for a good dozen great tonearms out there.
Why so ?
This is kind of generalizing arithmetical average vs detailed INDIVIDUAL calculation focused on an individual topic.
And maybe taking a few tiny issues into account which shouldn't be neglected.
Funny thing here is, that for the last month it seemed not to trouble you too much that I have designed the UNI-Protractor.
But now you seemed to change your mind and fall back to - very .. - old positions and habits of yours.
"False Prophets" who supported that LOMC-subject and forced a poor man to spent thousands of big dollars for those cartridges.
O.k. - message received.....
I believe that we all soon will see the decline of LOMCs into the mist of history - at least that's the prophecy.
Cheers,
D.

Dear Raul,
you can run your Ikeda in the 506/30 and I am happy to hear that you are satisfied with the performance, but - IMHO ... - the 506/30 is not exploring the performance limits of the Ikeda.
Cheers,
D.

Dear Dertonarm: Last time Agon deleted a thread with this same " discussion " subject ( as a fact the last one was the second time that happened for the same. ), I have 6-7 posts on those deleted threads and in one of them you give the " new " Fr set up parameters and result that distortions levels all over the LP were higher that any other approach/solution knowed.

So, till you don't show those lower distortions and better tonearm set up and only talk about telling us that there are something better IMHO is not enough. I repeat on that thread you try to prove it with out success but with a totally failure.

You ask why I return on this subject and the answer is because you insist on " nothing " and not only me but other people want to know where is that " true ". I'm not the only person that ask you about with no answer, Goech made it too in this thread as other made it on those threads I mentioned. Like all I would like to learn on that issue. If you don't want to talk about or you in reality have nothing then why bring it ones and again that ghost subject.
The people here in Méxiso say: " of tongue I eat 10Kgs. ".

On the Ikeda subject was many months ago when I posted on the quality performance of the SAEC/Ikeda combination. At the end the best cartridge performance was attained with the Mission The Mechanic tonearm.

Regrads and enjoy the music,
Raul.