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Uni-Protractor Set tonearm alignment

Looks like Dertonarm has put his money where his mouth is and designed the ultimate universal alignment tractor.

Early days, It would be great to hear from someone who has used it and compared to Mint, Feikert etc.

Given its high price, it will need to justify its superiority against all others. It does look in another league compared to those other alignemt devices

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?anlgtnrm&1303145487&/Uni-Protractor-Set-tonearm-ali
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thuchan
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Syntax a Marketing Manager? - I thought he fights against Marketing?
always learning new insights...

Best & Fun Only - Thuchan
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Syntax, I agree with Geoch and Raul.

I do not see the point with your posting.

Anyone with very little skill can position a stylus onto a point, so this kind of misalignment would be rare.
Nobody cares about the dennesen tractor misalignmnet vs correct alignment, unless you are doing a vaild comparison against the Uni Tractor.

After all, this is what the thread is about.
thuchan
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Dear Geoch, you state:

"the skill of the user to follow the offered precision is irrelevant"

what does it mean? As most of us do know and have learned how to align a cart & tonearm combination properly I have seen and heard many times inproper alignments. Having used for many years the Dennessen I know that you need a good time and some patience and also some skills to bring the needle into the hole.

Unfortunately what we are missing in our hobby are learning or training courses on proper alignment. if you don't have a good trainer/coach/friend not only giving you shows or demonstrations (I attended once Mike Fremers demonstration at the High End but this is theory demonstration
only!) and you are not doing it by yourself under supervision using a good tool you will always struggle or feel insecure. Do ask most people out there - not the hardcore guys - how they feel about this.

maybe this is what Synatx tried to demonstrate. 1mm correct or not, if you have the chance to match it exactely why not going for this?

Best & Fun Only - Thuchan
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syntax
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Hi,
these pictures are only an example. I did choose the Dennesen with that "hole" to show, that being not spot on will have sonic differences. That's all.
Me a marketing manager? I am afraid, I have a different profession.
Can't hear a difference with the shown set up?
Well, when you can't or think, there are none, it's time for an upgrade.
I made these pics because I heard the differences.
And I made this thread NOT to support the UNIprotraktor, I made it to show every reader, that even close to the right point (or line or whatever) can have good sonic results, but it can be done better.
The UNIprotraktor will go its own way.
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geoch
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Dear Thuckan, whats the use of the greatest protactor if one can not manage to take advantage of the offered precision?
The improper alignments that you have seen and heard, were due to wrong calculations or average protractor's quality. But if they were arised by the clumsiness of user, well, not only it is irrelevant to this thread, but I think that can also humiliate the demonstrator especially if he is one of the hardcore guys. If the user can not manipulate his fingers and his eyes, how can we speak about hearing faint sonic changes, since this presupposes the mental calm and a certain degree of manipulation of our nerves?
Can you please explain to me what the third photo is were about? Is this a demonstration of a great alignment?
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